Mass-diver
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Yes. The legality of copy cats under MA law (which is the same as the old fed AWB), is well established and vetted by the ATF.
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Healey "closing the loophole" letter to gun dealers
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Yes. The legality of copy cats under MA law (which is the same as the old fed AWB), is well established and vetted by the ATF.
One thing is hiding not licensed weapons from the war and another one is BEING REGISTERED and getting "illegal" weapons. Different scenario.
Sometimes re-stating the obvious in the simplest of terms is helpful when presenting an argument or rebuttal to our legislators.
Pass it on.
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It's funny, I bought a car last Tuesday and I was thinking of selling my AR and M1A "'cause I can always buy more guns" to pay for it. Glad I didn't.
Laws are not made from poll results. Dopes.
eta:we are a nation of established laws.
not passing fads, trends, or polls that change with the tide.
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I think that you mean 2004? Mitt didn't become Governor until 2003.
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The 1998 law didn't have a sunset but Mitt & co. Passed an extension to forestall moonbats going into pant shitting hysterics over the slightest possibility that it would leave the MA AWB vulnerable....
Celluci signed it in 1998. Romney signed some modifications in 2004.
See this.
See this.
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If anything, we should be getting our hands on what we want while its still available to do so. This stunt that MH pulled the other day. Talk about getting blindsided.
Heard from my LGS an emergency session at state house was held today but unable to confirm it
The house was already in session today IIRC.
That could go either way... emergency session so clarify the AWB, or emergency session to figure out how to round up all these recent felons....
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Boris
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Mitt was a hunter ... a small varmint hunter ... he hunted 100 times!
Looks like he's submitted legislation to remove AG firearm sales authority. Wonder how far this will go.
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This should go without saying, but give those reps supporting us a pat on the back. Especially the dems, as they are really making themselves a pariah in their party in standing by what is right. And we need them behind us arguably more given how the numbers hash out.
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" In Western Massachusetts, the letter was also signed by Rep. Susannah Whips Lee, R-Athol, and Rep. Stephen Kulik, D-Worthington. "
athol is now " western Massachusetts " ???
http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/07/senator_don_humason_files_bill.html[FONT=&]
Humason's office provided a copy of the language in his bill:[/FONT]
Humason's office provided a copy of the language in his bill:[/FONT]
SECTION 1. Section 2 of Chapter 93A of the General Laws, as appearing in the 2008 Official Edition, is hereby amended by inserting, in line 11, after the word "chapter" the following words: provided that such rules and regulations shall not govern, limit, or otherwise relate to weapons as defined in Section 121 of Chapter 140, the manufacture of weapons or the sale of weapons. Further, that any such rule or regulations having previously being promulgated are hereby repealed."
We NES folks see this as a pure gun and rights issue. the legislature may see it as a power issue. If they view it as the AG usurping power from them, then this might just get some steam.
this is a slippery slope for the legislature as well. if AG Healey can just "re-interpret" laws such that she is essentially rewriting them, then she could do the same in many other areas, not just firearms and 2A areas. The legislature may not so much care for that approach.
it all gets back to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". but if the legislature does put some effort behind removing power from the AG, I would not interpret that as them being pro-2A
Exactly, and I think this is the angle we all need to take when fighting this. Don't make it about firearms, make it about absolute overreach of authority and bypassing legislative process.
i've been in this thread since the start, and while i suppose it's possible that i glanced over a few posts too quickly, i don't recall anyone mentioning that there may be a LOT more to what happened this week.
i believe this may very well be an active attempt to purge the voter rolls in Massachusetts and be a test case for a national culling of the anti-liberal voting block.
felon = loss of voting rights...
i believe this may very well be an active attempt to purge the voter rolls in Massachusetts and be a test case for a national culling of the anti-liberal voting block.
felon = loss of voting rights...
Have to prosecute to make that happen. That would take a whole lot of dollars.
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I don't think money is a concern for the institutional left.
Hit the Democrats where it hurts... play the angle that women who had abortions could be brought up on charges years after the fact by a rouge AG who redefines what murder is. That will certainly make some buttholes pucker.
I don't see this (the AG actions) as a pure gun rights issue. This is a fundamental break of the rule of law - it just so happens to be focused against our civil rights.
Is it better strategically for the country if we leave this reinterpretation as banning all semi auto firearms in place until it can be fought via the courts? Am I incorrect in describing this as the best opportunity ever to eliminate future assault weapon bans?
Unfortunately, yes... at least IMHO.
The courts are no guarantee. Look at the LCI issue that we lost recently. And even prior to the death of Justice Scalia, the Supreme Court declined to hear AWB cases.
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