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Please spare me!!! I'll check back and see your thoughts when you get the One Gun A Month passed. The real reason is that all politicians lie and will say anything to get elected and then turn and run. Best example is the healthcare bill. The whole country was against it and they the politicians did not listen to the people. Your case is no different.
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Email I received today from the assistant of my rep, Katherine Clark. I asked for the position of my rep on each bill - either 'for' or 'against':
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Hello MA_Shooter,
I will reach out to GOAL and Jim Wallace to learn more about H. 2259. He always has very informative resources to utilize. Thank you for bringing it to Rep. Clark’s attention.
Once Rep. Clark has reviewed the bills and has a position, I will pass along that information.
Have a wonderful day!
Best,
Katherine
Office of Representative Katherine Clark
State House, Room 254
617.722.2220
http://www.staterepkatherineclark.com
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Hello MA_Shooter,
I will reach out to GOAL and Jim Wallace to learn more about H. 2259. He always has very informative resources to utilize. Thank you for bringing it to Rep. Clark’s attention.
Once Rep. Clark has reviewed the bills and has a position, I will pass along that information.
Have a wonderful day!
Best,
Katherine
Office of Representative Katherine Clark
State House, Room 254
617.722.2220
http://www.staterepkatherineclark.com
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GOAL C.M.
OK, turns out they "mailed the vote in" on this one, in other words the committee has and is voting on this without getting together for discussion.
We are expecting the results of the vote TODAY, most likely late this afternoon!
If you have not already please call the committee members and let them know that you are a MA voter and that you are opposed to this legislation.
We will let you know as soon as we have something to report.
Stay tuned.
We are expecting the results of the vote TODAY, most likely late this afternoon!
If you have not already please call the committee members and let them know that you are a MA voter and that you are opposed to this legislation.
We will let you know as soon as we have something to report.
Stay tuned.
Is this typical or a sneaky way to slip something through? If there is a majority of people that vote 'yes', does that mean the law goes into effect or will it be brought forth for a formal vote by all members?
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GOAL C.M.
This is fairly normal.
Once again, if this gets voted on favorably by the committee it will go to the house for discussion, at which point we can all hold each of our representatives accountable for the way they vote, this being an election year, many of our legislators are listening, as was seen with the Senate's recent vote on Illegal Immigration.
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Rep Clark is "reviewing both sides" but "has not made a decision yet." The aide that answered the phone did say that she has received and reviewed the information sent to her by Jim. Thanks again Jim, Mike and everyone at GOAL!
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Looks like they are going to have a recount, possibly tomorrow. Not sure how you mess up voting with that few people but they managed.
Lawmakers’ snafu delays vote on Gov. Patrick gun bill
A botched legislative vote today on Gov. Deval Patrick’s gun crackdown in the Bay State means the bill is on hold once again.
The legislation, sparked by gun violence in the Hub, would limit gun purchases to one a month per person. Lawmakers were supposed to vote the bill out of the judiciary committee today — but the committee failed to count two late votes, meaning members must vote again.
The bill faces an uphill battle in both the House and Senate because some lawmakers aren’t sure if it targets the street violence it’s meant to curb.
“The only way to tackle gang violence is by having aggressive law enforcement, not a feel-good piece of legislation,” said Sen. Steve Baddour (D-Methuen), who is vice chair of the legislative judiciary committee that axed the measure.
Patrick recently called for passage of the legislation after 14-year-old Jaewon Martin honors student was gunned last month as he and a friend were playing at a basketball court at the Bromley-Heath housing project.
The governor the filed legislation last year. It’s meant to tackle the problems of violence and illegal firearms following a series of recent shootings in the Bay State. The bill would also ensure no one but a machine gun’s owner or police can handle the automatic weapon after 8-year-old Christopher Bizilj lost control of the Uzi in his hands and died at an Oct. 2008 gun show.
Many lawmakers were concerned that the bill was a violation of basic constitutional freedoms.
“I’d like to vote for a bill which would have a direct and immediate impact on gun violence, but I have concerns … (about) whether the gun law is constitutional,” said Sen. Gail Candaras (D-Wilbraham), who also sits on the judiciary committee.
Katie Carlin contributed to this report
Lawmakers’ snafu delays vote on Gov. Patrick gun bill
A botched legislative vote today on Gov. Deval Patrick’s gun crackdown in the Bay State means the bill is on hold once again.
The legislation, sparked by gun violence in the Hub, would limit gun purchases to one a month per person. Lawmakers were supposed to vote the bill out of the judiciary committee today — but the committee failed to count two late votes, meaning members must vote again.
The bill faces an uphill battle in both the House and Senate because some lawmakers aren’t sure if it targets the street violence it’s meant to curb.
“The only way to tackle gang violence is by having aggressive law enforcement, not a feel-good piece of legislation,” said Sen. Steve Baddour (D-Methuen), who is vice chair of the legislative judiciary committee that axed the measure.
Patrick recently called for passage of the legislation after 14-year-old Jaewon Martin honors student was gunned last month as he and a friend were playing at a basketball court at the Bromley-Heath housing project.
The governor the filed legislation last year. It’s meant to tackle the problems of violence and illegal firearms following a series of recent shootings in the Bay State. The bill would also ensure no one but a machine gun’s owner or police can handle the automatic weapon after 8-year-old Christopher Bizilj lost control of the Uzi in his hands and died at an Oct. 2008 gun show.
Many lawmakers were concerned that the bill was a violation of basic constitutional freedoms.
“I’d like to vote for a bill which would have a direct and immediate impact on gun violence, but I have concerns … (about) whether the gun law is constitutional,” said Sen. Gail Candaras (D-Wilbraham), who also sits on the judiciary committee.
Katie Carlin contributed to this report
"Never let a crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emmanuel
Sounds like Patrick using one of Emmanuel's signature play.
Peaceable gun owners aren't the problem. It's criminals. Fight the criminals. Sadly, some criminals have guns. There's little we can do about it other than to enact tough penalties for those convicted and to lessen the burden of becoming a responsible gun owner (life time licensing, do not charge for licenses, etc.)
Sounds like Patrick using one of Emmanuel's signature play.
Peaceable gun owners aren't the problem. It's criminals. Fight the criminals. Sadly, some criminals have guns. There's little we can do about it other than to enact tough penalties for those convicted and to lessen the burden of becoming a responsible gun owner (life time licensing, do not charge for licenses, etc.)
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And I bet Patrick isn't sitting there patiently waiting either. He is without doubt looking to buy votes. Politicians disgust me.
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You won't. They are claiming the first vote was bad so will use that to hide it.
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Seems to me that the vote should be a public record, including the botched vote. Any way to twist some arms to get this info out?
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There has got to be a way to find out. It may require a written request, but worth while.
i don't like, not one bit.
in fact i hate the goobermint, it's all about the money. money talks [STRIKE]bullsh[/STRIKE] the people walk.
in fact i hate the goobermint, it's all about the money. money talks [STRIKE]bullsh[/STRIKE] the people walk.
This state has gone one step worse than simple monetary corruption of the political system. The people of this state have given the government unfettered license and power to do anything so long as they claim they are "fixing" something...
Far more dangerous than pay for play... This sort of bread and circus destroys civilizations...
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