Gun Confiscation Coming in Virginia

Iirc, there were NG units from various states besides LA who were sent there after Katrina. I seem to recall a UT unit specifically stating they would not participate in any gun confiscation.

All kinds of fun went on that rodeo. Three big oil companies were working with emergency Management staff in FLA to roll in massive levie building gear which was only miles away from some of the worst destruction days before the storm. The LOuie dochbags said "no thanks, we got this" . Same leaders screwed the pouch hard the whole way through that event.
 
Friend of mine in Amelia Va, tell me that for Jan 20 theres 9 buses chartered, and they plan on going to the statehouse. Must be the day the donks take office.
One county ( he didn't say which, and I didn't ask) voted to form a militia, so that'll be the next big push after 2a sanct.

Yep, there are actually 19 buses (as of right now) being offered all over the state for people to ride into Richmond on Jan 20, 2020. Gonna be a big day!
 
Any idea who is sponsoring/paying for the busses?

Is that a VCDL thing?

There are 9 buses chartered by VCDL. The rest are Rivenoak Armoury LLC (1), Fairfax County Rod and Gun Club (2), Washington County GOP, Stephanie Miller Moir (4), one from an unnamed VCDL member, and another unnamed party.

$35 per seat
 
Everyone talks big until someone gets arrested and made example of. Then 99% of people fall in line and accept gov power. I see no reason why the Ds wouldn't push forward here.

First they aren't smart enough to think far ahead. If they were, they wouldn't be socialists in the first place.

Second, other states have been trodding all over 2A constantly with zero repercussions and Trump, SCOTUS, et al haven't intervened. Hell, there another thread we're talking about Snowden proving the NSA was spying on every US person and Trump still wants to prosecute him.

Government will protect itself before all others. VA passes full retard law. Someone in VA shoots a statist cop enforcing said law. I guarantee in that scenario it is 1000x more likely Trump sends in NG to protect cops than it is he sends them in to protect 2A.

While all of this is generally true this situation is pretty unique in the sense that we've literally never seen this level of pissed off people in one state, simultaneously. This dramatically increases the odds that if the state goes FR, someone or perhaps a few people are going to go FR in the other direction. And better yet, if potentially elected LE officials are involved (like a sheriffs office, or his deputies, or what have you) are involved in an altercation with other .gov types over this, .gov isn't going to be able to shit-wash/schmear this as easily as they usually do.

Not to mention, this might be a lot more than "someone shooting a cop" etc. There's all different kinds of ways this can go. Like imagine the happy fun ball if the state tries to "Arrest" one of these sheriffs? Now instead of "joe peon thatwecanmakeshitupabout" the statists have to deal with the fact that an elected LEO is giving them shit. They can call those guys "rogue sheriffs" or whatever all they want, but nobody with at least one functioning brain cell is going to suck for the .gov line on who the sheriff is.

ETA: I also predict some of these dems are going to get cold feet, if people keep the pressure up....

-Mike
 
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While all of this is generally true this situation is pretty unique in the sense that we've literally never seen this level of pissed off people in one state, simultaneously. This dramatically increases the odds that if the state goes FR, someone or perhaps a few people are going to go FR in the other direction. And better yet, if potentially elected LE officials are involved (like a sheriffs office, or his deputies, or what have you) are involved in an altercation with other .gov types over this, .gov isn't going to be able to shit-wash/schmear this as easily as they usually do.

Not to mention, this might be a lot more than "someone shooting a cop" etc. There's all different kinds of ways this can go. Like imagine the happy fun ball if the state tries to "Arrest" one of these sheriffs? Now instead of "joe peon thatwecanmakeshitupabout" the statists have to deal with the fact that an elected LEO is giving them shit. They can call those guys "rogue sheriffs" or whatever all they want, but nobody with at least one functioning brain cell is going to suck for the .gov line on who the sheriff is.

ETA: I also predict some of these dems are going to get cold feet, if people keep the pressure up....

-Mike

I think you severely underestimate the bootlicking on both sides. Every Dem that voted for this gov and the house/senate are going to back going after "rogue sheriffs". And the fuddery blue line sticker Rs will jump right on the
"respect the law" bandwagon.

People supported rounding up Jews in Europe and Japanese in the US. Rounding up people who are effectively then actual criminals for violating killy gun laws is not even a step, let alone leap for gov loving voters.
 
I think you severely underestimate the bootlicking on both sides. Every Dem that voted for this gov and the house/senate are going to back going after "rogue sheriffs".

And the fuddery blue line sticker Rs will jump right on the
"respect the law" bandwagon.

People supported rounding up Jews in Europe and Japanese in the US. Rounding up people who are effectively then actual criminals for violating killy gun laws is not even a step, let alone leap for gov loving voters.

If everyone is bootlicking, then why are town halls getting stuffed with people over this? People supporting resolutions which, in effect, will directly contradict any "law" passed.

Also WRT "respect the law" bear in mind the Constitution is law, too. VA state constitution also has a provision in it as well.

Believe what you want, but I think this is different than the typical deal where 5 people whine and roll over. Don't forget there's a lot of angst building in this country, this is about more
than just guns at this point. Dems rigged a whole political system to hijack that state, if that doesn't piss off the TBL/R fudds, then nothing will.

-Mike
 
If everyone is bootlicking, then why are town halls getting stuffed with people over this? People supporting resolutions which, in effect, will directly contradict any "law" passed.

Also WRT "respect the law" bear in mind the Constitution is law, too. VA state constitution also has a provision in it as well.

Believe what you want, but I think this is different than the typical deal where 5 people whine and roll over. Don't forget there's a lot of angst building in this country, this is about more
than just guns at this point. Dems rigged a whole political system to hijack that state, if that doesn't piss off the TBL/R fudds, then nothing will.

-Mike

Please. Those people are obviously not outnumbering the antis. If they were, the Dems openly campaigning for confiscation wouldn't have swept the election.

It's a pretty high level of cognitive dissonance to allow yourself to think there are huge numbers of pro gun people while simultaneously knowing Rs got crushed in the election with this very topic being openly trumpeted as a key legislative goal.
 
The few people
Please. Those people are obviously not outnumbering the antis. If they were, the Dems openly campaigning for confiscation wouldn't have swept the election.

It's a pretty high level of cognitive dissonance to allow yourself to think there are huge numbers of pro gun people while simultaneously knowing Rs got crushed in the election with this very topic being openly trumpeted as a key legislative goal.
Me think there are some who have simply been bearing the suffering, weighing the cost/benefit of what needs to be done though. These people know 'that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed'.

Historians may look back and call the period we are living now as 'the brooding years'.
 
Please. Those people are obviously not outnumbering the antis. If they were, the Dems openly campaigning for confiscation wouldn't have swept the election.

It's a pretty high level of cognitive dissonance to allow yourself to think there are huge numbers of pro gun people while simultaneously knowing Rs got crushed in the election with this very topic being openly trumpeted as a key legislative goal.

I doubt most of the dem votes in VA were from "ban guns pls" but more from an NPC: "Waah trump waah" bullshit memetic.

Throw in some gerrymandering and you have a recipe for disaster on a political front. Right now this is a huge dumpster fire
in VA. Lawsuits and everything over the districting.

Also vs time (historically) VA gun owners have slowly rolled back a lot of bullshit there over the past decade or so. That wouldn't have be possible if they were "outnumbered".

-Mike
 
Anyone who tells you that Lobby Day is a new part of the 2A sanctuary movement, fraught with unknown dangers, is FOS. Lobby Day on MLK Day is a long=standing tradition in Virginia. I've been to it several times. VCDL does an amazing job of organizing the event, with team leaders guiding groups of citizens to the offices of various delegates and senators, with every legislator covered during the day. Everyone wears big orange stickers which say "Guns Save Lives". Attendance fluctuates, but at the ones I was at we had about 700 people. I would expect triple that number this year. It's easy to do, since all the offices are in the general assembly building across the street from the Capitol. Until this year, nearly every 2A activist carried a handgun at the event. This was allowed because the GA sets its own rules for its building - unlike the state offices which (Clinton bagman) McAuliffe made into gun-free zones.

The event itself is totally peaceful, polite, upbeat and friendly. The anti-2A groups also go around lobbying that day, with quite low turnout. At least until this year. I don't know what disruptions the Left might organize.
 
Anyone who tells you that Lobby Day is a new part of the 2A sanctuary movement, fraught with unknown dangers, is FOS. Lobby Day on MLK Day is a long=standing tradition in Virginia. I've been to it several times. VCDL does an amazing job of organizing the event, with team leaders guiding groups of citizens to the offices of various delegates and senators, with every legislator covered during the day. Everyone wears big orange stickers which say "Guns Save Lives". Attendance fluctuates, but at the ones I was at we had about 700 people. I would expect triple that number this year. It's easy to do, since all the offices are in the general assembly building across the street from the Capitol. Until this year, nearly every 2A activist carried a handgun at the event. This was allowed because the GA sets its own rules for its building - unlike the state offices which (Clinton bagman) McAuliffe made into gun-free zones.

The event itself is totally peaceful, polite, upbeat and friendly. The anti-2A groups also go around lobbying that day, with quite low turnout. At least until this year. I don't know what disruptions the Left might organize.

Agree with everything you've said. I've been to several myself. It's always a peaceful, respectful event. This year could be different? Just because of the amount of people I expect to see there. Lots of different organizations go and lobby there each year but this year will be gun heavy. There's a VCDL rally and all too.
 
Read a great comment today. The guy was directing it towards the Va. State Police and the National Guard. He stated:

"....Those of you who stand with the people will receive your retirement and health benefits in full. Those of you who stand against the people won't have to worry about them. And those of you who remain neutral well, you take your chances."
 
Too bad you cant "slug" to Richmond.....that would be hilarious

slug?
... the TBL/R fudds, then nothing will.

TBL/R fudds?

Am I getting too old? I'm not getting these abbreviations. Am I the only one?



Please. Those people are obviously not outnumbering the antis. If they were, the Dems openly campaigning for confiscation wouldn't have swept the election.

It's a pretty high level of cognitive dissonance to allow yourself to think there are huge numbers of pro gun people while simultaneously knowing Rs got crushed in the election with this very topic being openly trumpeted as a key legislative goal.

I think they were caught asleep at the wheel, but are now wide awake.



... more from an NPC: "Waah trump waah" bullshit memetic.

Another one. NPC?



How can the governor stand for this? He ought to call the Nat'l Guard on those County meetings and shut them down! No one needs to assemble like that!

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Virginia Activates Official Militia After Gun Confiscation Threats. Lawmakers Want To Make This A Felony

Wait, they always SAY the 2nd is for the militia. Well, now they got that.
 
Another one. NPC?
 
I met a guy from Virginia last week. Locals are forming independent militias, web gear and body armor cannot be had at any price in the military surplus stores.
 
So, doesn’t this bill criminalize kids karate classes?

1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or
2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or
3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

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Assembles of just one person is illegal if he want to train with a gun.

Standing in front of your TV watching Magpul videos with your AR will be illegal.
 
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