Does this bill completely undo/repeal/invalidate all the effects of the 7/20 'guidance' letter?
Yes, and it keeps her from doing it again.
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Does this bill completely undo/repeal/invalidate all the effects of the 7/20 'guidance' letter?
Lava soap.Same amount as before, and she can't replace it with pumice again.
Let me be the tin foil tard... It's what I'm good at.
As stated and as I understand you guys. This erases the last week. And prevents more like it. The fines are a tough one to swallow.
Could she sneak attack using the fa10's down the road?
As long as I dont have to be afraid of the fa10 system I MAY just use it..... Part of me doesn't care. Part of men like my dog too much.
the fines are the comprises. They are the part that allow people who wouldn't normally support the bill to support it so they can remain tough on crime and guns.
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Your language is still unclear to me. Does this undo what she already did?
The fines are a tough one to swallow.
the fines are the comprises. They are the part that allow people who wouldn't normally support the bill to support it so they can remain tough on crime and guns.
You don't go from 0-100 in one step. The first step is getting this set back to Wednesday 7/20/16, so unless you have a flux capacitor and a goddamn deloreon, this is how we need to do it.
The 7/21 date is noted to close any loophole that Healey might try to exploit, that's it, that's why it's noted - the bill provides protections for anything done before 7/21, this is why it's noted.Let me try starting this again. I apologize for posting my initial angry response before thinking about it further.
Here is how I read the bill. If you think I'm wrong about some of it, please correct me and *share your reasoning*.
Section 1 is great, it gets rid of AG rules and regulations about guns under the 93A consumer protection statute.
However, did the AG mention/invoke anything about 93A in her 7/20 announcement?
Section 2 appears to be grandfathering of pre 7/21 AWs. How is this different from the grandfathering rejected by Jim at the rally last week? Also, it only seems to cover guns that went through MIRCs. What about guns that went through NICS (federal) as a lower (not a gun re MA) and then were built up and registered on a paper FA-10? From NES group buys alone, there are probably well over a thousand of these.
Section 3 says that the definition of AW can't change without legislative input, which is great. However, her 7/20 directive contends that she hasn't changed the definition of AW, just clearly stated what it has meant the whole time. She's obviously being disingenuous here at best, but how does this new language keep her from just maintaining the farce?
Section 4 increases the penalty for failing to file an FA-10. I don't care at all about the fine increase. However, adding a prison term triggers the following language in Section 131 of Ch 140: "a violation of any law regulating the use, possession, ownership, transfer, purchase, sale, lease, rental, receipt or transportation of weapons or ammunition for which a term of imprisonment may be imposed;" This means failing to file an FA-10 is a lifetime disqualification for a MA LTC.
Section 5 gets tougher on real criminals, good stuff.
The 7/21 date is noted to close any loophole that Healey might try to exploit, that's it, that's why it's noted - the bill provides protections for anything done before 7/21, this is why it's noted.
ETA regarding section 3, removing her powers via 93A nullifies this as she did change the definition via the "copycat" bs, (not to mention what was noted in her "guidance")
Someone hit the nail on the head earlier in this thread with regard to fines and penalities: "I don't really see a problem with the increased penalties for people breaking the law because I try not to break the law. And I don't plan to use a firearm to commit a felony and I have a license. If I did, I reckon I have bigger fish to fry than a longer sentence."
Let me try starting this again. I apologize for posting my initial angry response before thinking about it further.
Section 2 appears to be grandfathering of pre 7/21 AWs. How is this different from the grandfathering rejected by Jim at the rally last week? Also, it only seems to cover guns that went through MIRCs. What about guns that went through NICS (federal) as a lower (not a gun re MA) and then were built up and registered on a paper FA-10? From NES group buys alone, there are probably well over a thousand of these.
Does this accept the AG's interpretation? How can GOAL support that? If it doesn't, why does it say anything about pre-7/21?
100%.A crossing of T's and dotting of I's if you will. Basically making it so there is no open window for her to exploit any owners who have bought anything. Correct?
Section 4 increases the penalty for failing to file an FA-10. I don't care at all about the fine increase. However, adding a prison term triggers the following language in Section 131 of Ch 140: "a violation of any law regulating the use, possession, ownership, transfer, purchase, sale, lease, rental, receipt or transportation of weapons or ammunition for which a term of imprisonment may be imposed;" This means failing to file an FA-10 is a lifetime disqualification for a MA LTC.
100%.
Lava soap.
Section 5: Adds 5 to 10 years to the sentence of a person convicted for use of firearms while committing a felony if the person did not have a license or the firearm was purchased and a gun transfer was not recorded.
Has this been scrubbed by a 2A attorney? Maybe I just don't understand the legal lingo, but I'm not so keen in this because of some confusion over FA10 transfer registration vs federal 4473 transfer. Is in itself having an improperly (according to whoever's interpretation of law) registered lower, rifle or handgun a felony and thus simply having said firearm adds an addition 5-10 years to that felony term? What happens if I purchased a gun on a paper FA10, and the seller did not properly do and correct the transfer, but I never knew about it, yet have my copy of the FA10? Am I in felony possession?
I wish this Bill wasn't muddied up with changes to law and punishment, and simply focused on reversing the illegal AG action. However, if it can both reverse her past action and prevent further similar actions, while at the same time removing the secret AG list and conditions then it makes sense to have to give up something in return. In that respect it is fair.
this sounds promising.
While I dont have a dog in the fight since I am no longer in that hell hole, my first thoughts when I heard of this BS was the horror of the fact that she somehow circumvented legislature to do this. When my wife, who isnt an anti, but isnt head over heels pro 2A either learned of it, she expressed the same shock about the lack of due process that I did.
I think that leaning on that angle of attack when calling/emailing your reps etc would be far more effective than using the "My 2A rights!" approach with likely liberal minded politicians. Dont tell them youre concerned because youre a gun owner, but youre horrified because she was able to change a law all on her own, and somehow the governor thought this was a fantastic thing? Whats to stop her from doing it again focused on a different agenda?