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There are "lefties" that tell gun owners their "fear of government control" reason for owning guns is irrational.........who are we to tell a gay person their fear of being beaten up is irrational?I'm all in favor of armed defense, but these "kids" under 30 who legitimately fear "Trump" or "the alt-right" gangs due to being gay, and hence want to buy a gun, are flat out off their rockers. I grew up sponsoring and supporting my friend Jay Lodie's HIV fundraisers, and safe-walk program which addressed the then-real issue of being beat up by strangers for being gay. It was a problem 30 years ago; for the most part these days it really, really isn't. I'd hazard a guess you're more likely to be assaulted for using the wrong pronoun, by someone who's not them self gay or transgender but really feels it's important to "support the community".
There's really only one group in this country and around the world who pose a serious threat to the gay community "just for walking down the street" and while it's not OK to say it out loud anymore, let's me just posit that the perpetrator of the Pulse Nightclub shooting essentially represents the MO of the group. Maybe "the gay angle" will make it PC to say "I want to be armed because X group has sworn a vow to god to their god to eradicate me and people like me from the earth".
I love Pink Pistols but one thing that's always irked me is the talk of "the trans genocide" and the volume of people killed "just for being gay" - it rings as false as the "Healy Hurts Families" tagline from GOAL (though at least that could happen). Gay rights groups ALWAYS leave out the incredibly high comorbidity between transgenderism and mental issues like bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, drug addiction, etc. which correlate highly with homelessness, and in turn tend to lead to the relatively few murders of transgender people (in 2017, a mere 28) which are then called a "genocide". You look at the numbers for "homeless" or "schizophrenic" in general, and murder affects a slightly larger percentage of those populations. Yes, every year there tend to be one or two "holy shit she has a penis" crime-of-passion homicides - not exactly a genocide, and easily avoided by being honest.
They will likely get a pass on having to qualify for a permit because they are a protected group. In a sit down with the chief, how many would pass it. These ones screaming they are in imminent danger, because they are gay. Might seem a little unhinged
Im was a bit put back by that one too.I’m amused at the ‘they don’t need to fear the government’ posts on THIS forum. So gay people are arming themselves for self defense. Good.
There are "lefties" that tell gun owners their "fear of government control" reason for owning guns is irrational.........who are we to tell a gay person their fear of being beaten up is irrational?
If they legitimately fear Trump aka The Government, then are they not supporting the definition of the 2nd Amendment?
I find this ironic, the issue I see with lefties is the intolerance of anything that disagrees with them. It’s ok for them to have guns because of legitimate fear of Trump, but we’re not allowed them because our fears are not legitimized.
BTW, I’m ok with them wanting to defend themselves and own guns, I’m ok with those not wanting guns in their homes, I think the right should be with the people.
I didn’t vote for, agree with or even like Obama, however I still respected the office he represented, POTUS is POTUS no matter who sits in the Oval Office.
Do we really care why someone says they want a fire arm for protection? I claim it's personal defense against a home invasion or mugging.......I'd say the chances of a gay person getting attacked for being gay are about the same as me getting mugged......go to the deep South and you'll hear some anti gay sentiment trust me.Not buying it. Gays have never been more accepted, more celebrated, to the point of being a favored and protected political class, this story is BS.
While this is mostly true, why have we had more record-breaking gun sales 18 months into the Trump Presidency with a Repub Senate and Congress?The Obama presidency was a gun and ammo buying frenzy fueled explicitly by the fear of the POTUS. I remember seeing those "Gun salesman of the year" posters with his face on them all over gun stores and gun forums.
While this is mostly true, why have we had more record-breaking gun sales 18 months into the Trump Presidency with a Repub Senate and Congress?
As Gun Control Dominates Headlines, Gun Sales Set Another High RecordDo you have a source for that? I can't find anything that points to anything other than a general slump is sales since election day. I'm not trying to be combative, I am genuinely curious.
If we get protected class wanting guns it forces politicians in a box.Gays seem to know how to drive an agenda, get political power, get on TV, look good, dress well, smell nice...all the things we gun rights people need...
Shit I have a third of those qualities... better warn the lady friend.Gays seem to know how to drive an agenda, get political power, get on TV, look good, dress well, smell nice...all the things we gun rights people need...