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- Thread starter Mike1911
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I also wonder is it some kind of law or regulation that they MUST include with a new guns? Seems like a waste of time and energy.
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I think it's up there with the test targets you sometimes get with rifles showing the sub-MOA groups. Just enough to be a subtle reminder of what an awesome product you just bought, and how you should own atleast 6 more.
45collector
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Every time you receive a spent shell with your new pistol, you're supposed to send it to the MSP with your name, address, license #, make and model of gun, serial #, mother's maden name, shoe size and combination for your locker from 8th grade.
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They want you to step on the case and send it to Winchester so they can load in to their their white box loads.
It's just the firearms version of an "inspected by" sticker...
No conspiracy theory required. They don't all do it.
It's for states (like Maryland & New York) who use "ballistic fingerprinting" to (try) and solve crimes. The sealed envelope with all the information on the outside is supposed to prove that the fired casing is from that exact firearm.
Umm, er, ah, uh, that would only be useful if they sent the casing to someone that kept track of it and its tool marks...
Doesn't help much if they give it to the owner... After all, according to Deval, the lawful owners of firearms are all criminals anyway...
MD (and perhaps another few states) require that the original sale by a dealer must include the spent shell, which then must be sent to the MD firearms licensing unit in the sealed envelope for "registration" of the gun. Thus, it's cheaper for mfrs to ship all guns with the envelope/case. NOTE: The Dealer sends the envelope w/whatevr paperwork the state requires for registration to the state . . . in those states, the buyer never gets the envelope/casing.
For the rest of the US, it provides the first owner with a DOB of the gun w/o querying the mfr. A curiosity point now, but in 40+ years, as those guns reach "age 50" it's proof-positive that the specific gun is C&R.
For the rest of the US, it provides the first owner with a DOB of the gun w/o querying the mfr. A curiosity point now, but in 40+ years, as those guns reach "age 50" it's proof-positive that the specific gun is C&R.
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Stryker
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This is what Ruger included on a piece of paper in the box with my new MarkIII:
Certain states require that all newly manufactured pistols and revolvers be accompanied by a cartridge case that has been test fired from that gun at the factory. The case must be placed in a sealed container bearing certain information concerning this test cartridge. At the time of retail sale in those jurisdictions with the requirement, firearms dealers must forward the test cartridge to a designated destination such as their State Police Laboratory. As independent Ruger Distributors have nationwide markets without territorial restrictions, we have decided to include a fired cartridge case with all new Ruger pistols and revolvers to minimize the possibility of inadvertent non-compliance with these laws. Retail customers located in states that do not require a fired cartridge case may be assured that the fired cartridge case they receive with the firearm at the time of retail purchase is proof that your new Ruger firearm has undergone our normal test firing procedures during manufacture.
Certain states require that all newly manufactured pistols and revolvers be accompanied by a cartridge case that has been test fired from that gun at the factory. The case must be placed in a sealed container bearing certain information concerning this test cartridge. At the time of retail sale in those jurisdictions with the requirement, firearms dealers must forward the test cartridge to a designated destination such as their State Police Laboratory. As independent Ruger Distributors have nationwide markets without territorial restrictions, we have decided to include a fired cartridge case with all new Ruger pistols and revolvers to minimize the possibility of inadvertent non-compliance with these laws. Retail customers located in states that do not require a fired cartridge case may be assured that the fired cartridge case they receive with the firearm at the time of retail purchase is proof that your new Ruger firearm has undergone our normal test firing procedures during manufacture.
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this is the best reply LOL.
I wonder how many of those spent shells have ever led to the solving of a crime. Call me skeptical
If the number is higher than one I'd be surprised.
I'm sure it's even less for Revolvers because they don't eject their brass on the ground.
dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
Interestingly enough, in MD, used guns made before 1990 are exempt from this (according to a former customer of mine in MD) and in NY, if you want to purchase a new gun that is NOT provided with a spent casing (like a Colt, a Taurus, or a Rossi), your FFL can take it to the NYSP or a certified testing lab to have them fire a test shot and get a spent casing that way.
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bfm
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Cause they probably figure the buyer is just going to shoot it more anyways. Not a lot of residue left from shooting like 1-5 rounds through it....
-Mike
Still. You wouldn't expect road salt on your new car when you pick it up at the dealer, even in middle of winter.
And yes, I always clean and lube any firearm before taking it to the range for the first time. Which is probably the only reason I notice that they are dirty.
