Denver PD shoots and kills a driver. More race baiting.

[jho]

http://www.autostraddle.com/jessie-...-teen-latina-lesbian-killed-by-police-274777/

As if the cops knew she was a lesbian at the time of shooting.

She broke a cops leg with her car. There are disputes as to whether she hit him first or after being shot.

"The most important fact to note is that a young Latina lesbian was killed by police."




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[dcmdon]

Uh. And when he ran the plate, it came back as a stolen car.

Gotta give the benefit of the doubt to the LEO on this one.

 

[Palladin]

she looks whiter than I do

 

[mibro]

Uh. And when he ran the plate, it came back as a stolen car.

Gotta give the benefit of the doubt to the LEO on this one.

Not me. I don't think failure to instantly comply is sufficient justification for summary execution. The USA is the only first world country where the police do this.

 

[drgrant]

Not me. I don't think failure to instantly comply is sufficient justification for summary execution. The USA is the only first world country where the police do this.

I wouldn't have a problem with it if I (joe offduty nonbadgeperson citizen) could legally shoot a car thief that tried to run over me with my own car. (or for that matter, anyone else who tried to use a motor vehicle as a weapon against me, like say if a drunk driver tries to PIT my car, and I shoot him in the face hollywood style while the cars are moving, that should be lawful). In most states in the US if someone shot a car thief that tried to run over them, they'd be glued up and down in the justice system for murder or some bullshit like that. If we're not gonna level the playing field than LEOs shouldn't be standing in front of stolen cars hoping their foot will stop an MV. Either these guys are stupid, they care too much about someone else's property, or they're trying to get hurt a little so they end up on disability.

-Mike

 

[whalerman69]

ya maybe it's not their fault. Somebody should take the time to explain to them if you steal a car, hold up a store, rob a bank, home invasion you may get shot....Made it to 56 by avoiding all the above.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

What does her being a lesbian have anything to do with it? Jack.

 

[mibro]

I wouldn't have a problem with it if I (joe offduty nonbadgeperson citizen) could legally shoot a car thief that tried to run over me with my own car. (or for that matter, anyone else who tried to use a motor vehicle as a weapon against me, like say if a drunk driver tries to PIT my car, and I shoot him in the face hollywood style while the cars are moving, that should be lawful). In most states in the US if someone shot a car thief that tried to run over them, they'd be glued up and down in the justice system for murder or some bullshit like that. If we're not gonna level the playing field than LEOs shouldn't be standing in front of stolen cars hoping their foot will stop an MV. Either these guys are stupid, they care too much about someone else's property, or they're trying to get hurt a little so they end up on disability.

-Mike

Mike, I'm happy to find myself on the same side of this issue.

This incident escalated directly from vehicle reported stolen to murder because one of these police officers was itching to shoot someone or too fearful to wear the uniform, or both.

These kids may not have even realized what was going on before the bullets started flying.

 

[Hoover]

she looks whiter than I do

Is she a "white hispanic" as the NY times created for George zimmerman.

 

[Christian]

Just another case of PSGWSP.

 

[ccm75]

Hey, TLL, PSGWSP

 

[Hoover]

The Denver PD doesn't have the best track record. There are many more besides these two.

 

[jho]

What does her being a lesbian have anything to do with it? Jack.

EXACTLY. This is unnecessary association meant to spark an emotional response. There was no way the cops could have known she was a lesbian prior to shooting her unless she was doing something else other than driving.

This was my only point. I do not have any opinions on whether it was justified.

Also the article states it was ruled as a homicide. Correct me if I'm wrong but no matter if it was justified or not, you would be charged with homicide after killing a person. Justification would be determined afterwards. Homicide is a broad definition of one person killing another person intentionally including but not limited to murder.
Like I said I might be wrong about that.

 

[Lukes83]

From the article:

Jessie didn’t deserve to die, even if she indeed used a stolen car as a weapon.

huh?

 

[Lukes83]

The Denver PD doesn't have the best track record. There are many more besides these two.

That's disgusting.

 

[gamma19]

Is she a "white hispanic" as the NY times created for George zimmerman.

Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race, which is why on demographics questionnaires there's a section for race, usually "white, black, asian, native american, latino, other" and then underneath "hispanic, non-hispanic".

The only sensible response from the comments section:

But she was ****ing driving a stolen car at a police officer. How would anyone here feel if they were in an alleyway and someone was driving a car right at them? Do we know how fast she was going? Sometimes people make split-second decisions for self-defense.The police are permitted to shoot if they believe that a life, including their own, is at risk. Eric Garner illegally selling cigarettes did not put anyone’s life at risk. Trayvon Martin wearing a hoodie did not put anyone’s life at risk. Trans women just existing do not put anyone’s life at risk.
Driving a car at another human being (even if they are a *gasp* police officer) puts someone’s life at risk.
I’m a black and gender nonconforming lesbian but I’ve noticed a trend in social justice communities where simply because someone is part of a minority group they are automatically deemed right in all words and deeds.
Just because someone is a trans woman, a queer person, a POC, or any combination of these identities does not make them automatically right in every situation. There are times when trans women, queer people, and POC **** up, (and in the case of flagrantly violating the law and putting lives at risk, **** up majorly) and they should be held accountable just like everyone else.
I don’t want to be infantilized as a black person, a lesbian, or a gender nonconformist, being treated like I cannot be held accountable for my actions and every time something unpleasant happens to me it is someone else’s fault entirely, and neither should any other member of a minority.
Of course there are times when people in positions of power are racist, sexist, or anti-LGBT, but I don’t believe this is one of those cases.

This woman gets it. It seems like everyone wants a piece of the victimhood pie nowadays. They killed her because she was a latina lesbian? Give me a ****ing break. In the pictures she looks like a Justin Bieber impersonator.

 

[Hoover]

Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race, which is why on demographics questionnaires there's a section for race, usually "white, black, asian, native american, latino, other" and then underneath "hispanic, non-hispanic".

The only sensible response from the comments section:



This woman gets it. It seems like everyone wants a piece of the victimhood pie nowadays. They killed her because she was a latina lesbian? Give me a ****ing break. In the pictures she looks like a Justin Bieber impersonator.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT]
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I’m a black and gender nonconforming lesbian

What? I don't even understand what half these people call themselves. They don't have gender identity issues, they have mental issues. They were not made the wrong gender, they are insane.

 

[ColdDayInHell]

4 kids in an alley in a stolen car at 6:30 AM, hits the officer with the car. Why does no-one place any blame on the "innocent little girl"?

 

[beerjeep]

What? I don't even understand what half these people call themselves. They don't have gender identity issues, they have mental issues. They were not made the wrong gender, they are insane.

No. No more than me and my choice of a spouse or choice of firearm makes me insane. Simply because you, 'don't even understand,' does not make their choices or belief a symptom of illness.

 

[beerjeep]

Look at the source of this story.

"Yvonne S. Marquez is a senior editor at Autostraddle and a Latina lesbian living in Dallas, Texas. She’s originally from a weird/wonderful place called the Rio Grande Valley, a region along the Texas-Mexico border. She studied magazine journalism in Austin and worked for a local gay & lesbian magazine for a hot second. She’s a true INFJ, Sagittarius and Ravenclaw, so basically she’s quiet and thinks a lot. In her spare time, she tries to read as many books by women of color as she can, hangs out with a bunch of socialists and social justice organizers, and likes drinking local beer. Connect with her on Tumblr or on Twitter.

 

[Hoover]

No. No more than me and my choice of a spouse or choice of firearm makes me insane. Simply because you, 'don't even understand,' does not make their choices or belief a symptom of illness.

Eh, when someone says they were born the wrong sex and want to chop off a part of their body, that isn't normal. Watch 'keeping up with the kardashians' and tell me bruce jenner soon to be beatrice jenner is normal.

 

[JayMcB]

4 kids in an alley in a stolen car at 6:30 AM, hits the officer with the car. Why does no-one place any blame on the "innocent little girl"?

because they were good girls, turning their (<stolen> car and) lives around. Stealing a car and attempted vehicular homicide don't count, and you're a misogynist LBGT-hating RACIST to even bring it up.

 

[dcmdon]

Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race, which is why on demographics questionnaires there's a section for race, usually "white, black, asian, native american, latino, other" and then underneath "hispanic, non-hispanic".

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This idea that separates ethnicity from race in federal victimhood segregation is relatively new. Its not how it has always been. I personally think they are doing this so that they can exclude hispanics from the Victim category as they make up more and more of the population. This will ensure that African Americans remain societal victims because hispanics are really white.

 

[mclina]

What does her being a lesbian have anything to do with it? Jack.

That proved she was driving a stolen car - it wasn't a Subaru.

 

[KBCraig]

This idea that separates ethnicity from race in federal victimhood segregation is relatively new. Its not how it has always been. I personally think they are doing this so that they can exclude hispanics from the Victim category as they make up more and more of the population. This will ensure that African Americans remain societal victims because hispanics are really white.

Haven't met many Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, or Panamanians, have you?

I have a Latina friend who was born in Cuba, where most people would be described as "black". She's 5'10", slender, blond, fair-skinned, and blue-eyed.

 

[Bendad97]

She fought the cops and got licked; not a new thing for her I am guessing.

 

[ridleyman]

does "auto straddle" mean what I think it might?

 

[Hoover]

Haven't met many Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, or Panamanians, have you?

I have a Latina friend who was born in Cuba, where most people would be described as "black". She's 5'10", slender, blond, fair-skinned, and blue-eyed.

I'm sold, what's her number?

 

[falcon123]

No. No more than me and my choice of a spouse or choice of firearm makes me insane. Simply because you, 'don't even understand,' does not make their choices or belief a symptom of illness.

You're kidding, right?

 

[KBCraig]

I'm sold, what's her number?

"Mrs. No-longer-Villanueva-now-that-she's-married", that's her number.