Cicero cop shooting tied to gun Chicago P.D. should have destroyed

[mikeyp]

Even worse, a judge had brought it in to a gun buyback years ago

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/cicero-cop-shooting-tied-to-gun-chicago-p-d-should-have-destroyed/

 

[robjax]

nothing will happen to them. Politicians will spin this to reflect negatively on pro 2A law abiding citizens.

 

[Bonesinium]

Drop guns are very real.

 

[mikeyp]

Everyone always makes jokes about how many guns end up in private collections from buybacks...guess it's not a joke

 

[rocket500]

Sounds a lot like a drop gun to me!

 

[AHM]

Second City Cop is on it:

Lucy! You got some 'splainin' to do!!!

Since it's a blog for Chicago cops, there are lots of anonymous postings and lots of inside baseball. My favorite bit is this sidelight:

... We remember when over a hundred VCR's went missing from ERPS, long before this blog even existed. The Department shelled out thousands of dollars to the owner of an appliance store who had gone to claim his property after a burglary trial and was amazed the Department couldn't account for the equipment. It was about that time that every Watch Commander's office in the city suddenly had a new VCR and every Roll Call room had another one for "training tapes."

Puts one in the mind of every Sopranos "divvying up the stolen goods" scene ever filmed.

Although, this reader comment is a pip:

how do we know [the judge] really turned in [his late father's] gun [to the gun buyback]. its no questions asked-here's your debit card.

 

[Radtekk]

Apologists in 3, 2, 1...

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[Bonesinium]

The only explanations all require at least two wrongdoings on the part of the government. Either the judge lied about turning it in at a buy back. Or someone in the police kept the firearm. AND then something else had to have happened for it to end up at the scene. Either it was stolen (and not reported). Sold to someone bad. Or planted.

Considering the gun was in the possession of the police, and ended up at the scene of a police shooting, the most likely scenario involves the police having something to do with it being there. I'm going with it being a drop gun.

 

[Broc]

Evidence disappears from evidence rooms all the time.
Guns don't get destroyed.
We find out that thousands of people could be innocent after evidence has been tampered with and lab reports falsified...

And nothing is done.

 

[PATRON]

Cops getting guns that were turned in,or taken from a crime has been going on for a very long time.Here is a story on something like that as told to me by the man himself.Jim Leavelle when he was a Dallas Texas Detective had arrested a guy,and took from him a nice 45 auto. Jim Loved the grips that were on the gun,and asked the Judge when the case was over could he get the grips from the gun. So one day he gets called to the Judges chambers,and the judge throws the gun on the table.Jim took his pocket knife out of his pocket,and started to remove the grips.The Judge asked him what he was doing,Jim told him he was taking the grips.The Judge replied no you can have the gun with the grips.So long story short the day he was giving Oswald the death walk he was carrying that gun as a back up.

 

[Bonesinium]

Evidence disappears from evidence rooms all the time.
Guns don't get destroyed.
We find out that thousands of people could be innocent after evidence has been tampered with and lab reports falsified...

And nothing is done.

Yep. And it's not just in big corrupt cities like Chicago.


NH has this inmate trustee program, in which country prisoners can be released into the custody of local police departments where they perform "community service".

651:36-a Uncompensated Public Service by Prisoners.

A few years ago in a small town in NH, an inmate under this program while at a local PD, was left unsupervised repeatedly (violation of the program rules). At one point he took a police car (that had a loaded shotgun in it) for a joy ride. He also routinely used the phone to chat with his girlfriend (also violation). But to the point, he eventually broke into the evidence room and stole drugs. He was caught trying to smuggle them back into the prison at the end of the day when he was returned. This led to a full blown AG investigation that resulted in the evidence room officer and the chief of police being forced to resign. Why? Well let's just say there were some not so minor discrepancies in regards to the evidence.

The inmate confessed to the break-in, and told them what he stole and where he stashed some of it. And when the county sent a drug dog to look, sure enough, they found the drugs exactly where he said. Yet somehow, later that day, the chief of police called them and said he found some drugs that must have been stashed by the inmate. But he didn't know they had already searched with a drug dog. Nor did he know that they already had pictures of where he said he found them...and the box he said he found them in wasn't there. And oh yeah, they were actually growing marijuana in the evidence room. Like live plants under grow lamps.

So yeah, the police tamper with evidence all the time. And apparently the worst that happens in they let you resign.

 

[Bt74]

NH cops don't use throwdowns....anymore. Now they just claim the "criminal" made a "gun gesture" with their finger, before being shot.

 

[Palladin]

http://www.patriotledger.com/news/2...407998-and-60-guns-missing-from-evidence-room