C&R question

[Garys]

Is the Hungarian PA-63 9x18 Makarov listed as a C&R pistol? I can't find it on the ATF lists although I find the Russian version listed.

Gary

 

[Pilgrim]

if it's over 50 years old it automatically qualifies.

 

[MikeD]

The E.German and Russian military Makarovs are the only pistols that are c&r eligible. The PA-63 is just a copy of the Walther PP, except in cal. 9x18mm.

 

[Garys]

Thanks. Too bad, the Makarov looks like a nice weapon.

Gary

 

[SKS Ray]

Remember, it still has to be on the ATF list. Look at Heym 22 cal. trainers. They're old as dirt, yet not C&R because they're not on the list.
As far as I know theres only one Markarov thats C&R and I can't remember which one but I know they fetch top dollar because of that. That ridiculous Mass law stating that a pistol has to be here in Mass already in order for you to buy it rules out ordering one from SOG and having it sent to an 01FFL holder too. :x

 

[Len-2A Training]

Remember, it still has to be on the ATF list. Look at Heym 22 cal. trainers. They're old as dirt, yet not C&R because they're not on the list.
As far as I know theres only one Markarov thats C&R and I can't remember which one but I know they fetch top dollar because of that. That ridiculous Mass law stating that a pistol has to be here in Mass already in order for you to buy it rules out ordering one from SOG and having it sent to an 01FFL holder too. :x

Sorry, you are way off base here!

- Please read the BATFE definition of C&R (on their website) - It has to be EITHER >50 years old OR on the List of C&R guns!

- A C&R FFL holder CAN legally mail-order a C&R pistol direct to their house, do the FA-10 form and good to go. EOPS List and AG Regs be damned!

- If a C&R FFL is dumb enough to order a C&R handgun and have it shipped to an 01 FFL, they get what they deserve . . . it can NOT be transferred to the C&R FFL holder in MA! 01 FFLs are specifically prohibited by MGL from transferring any old handgun in MA to a MA Resident unless it was in MA on 10/21/98!

- Many (but not all) out of state dealers/distributors will NOT ship any C&R handguns into MA, as they are too dumb to understand the laws and have no desire to try.

 

[SKS Ray]

I was told by several people that certain rifles like the Heym trainer that weren't on the list can't be sold as C&R firearms.
The handgun deal I was refering to was that non C&R used handguns (a polish Makarov for example) can not be shipped into Massachusetts. Only brand new handguns to 01 FFL holders and of course C&R holders can purchase CZ52s, Nagant revolvers, and other asst. C&R handguns from places like SOG for example.