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Bomb gone off in Oslo/Norway, Shooting
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namedpipes
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1) It remains to be seen what the fallout of that shooting will be.
2) 90+ deaths vs 6 might carry a little more weight, even from that distance.
Mass-diver
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I figured soft points. These day it's either "armor piercing" FMJs or "exploding" softies....
I read that personal Q&A of his, and will admit he makes some valid points about the effects of islam( the rest of it was psycho babble) but the targets he chose had little to do with his issues, future socialists of the world or not they were children he killed.
If he was to attack islamic targets, play the terrorists at their own game, it could have gotten very interesting.
If he was to attack islamic targets, play the terrorists at their own game, it could have gotten very interesting.
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Jose
Nothing will happen here. The rest of the country is not like your corner of the world.
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Jose
I didn't say the guy picked all the right targets. I said brace for more of the same.
According to what someone posted here already, the camp is breeding ground for Norway's socialist elite. In his mind, hitting it made military sense.
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Jose
From what I understood, his problem is not with islam.
His problem is with european elites (the same targets of derision and contempt for most of this board) that enable islam to gain an unchecked foothold in Scandinavia.
Google muslim and sweden.
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Jose
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Jose
Some of you would not believe the amount of positive feedback I have privately received over my plain, blunt observations about what has happened and what will eventually happen again.
It is clear who here has his head stuck in the sand and who can see the writing on the wall.
Carry on.
It is clear who here has his head stuck in the sand and who can see the writing on the wall.
Carry on.
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Jose
I'll be just fine. But I appreciate your concern.
How the heck did he manage to hit anything??
June4th
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Was just joking on the fact that the mini 14 is known fairly well as a pretty crappy gun accuracy-wise (out of the box).
I'll agree this guy was striking what in his mind was a "military target" as Jose pointed out. I don't know much about this "camp", but it sounds like a pure indoctrination thing to me. Unfortunately the problem is the parents that send them there, not these kids themselves. I doubt they had a choice.
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Bill Nance
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Sorry Jose, what happened to innocent children is not something I can condone, regardless of how I felt about the individual's ideological background. Nor is it something I can condone in the context of a civil war.
This is murder of innocent children. There is no other way to put it. It is morally reprehensible.
If this worthless sonofabitch had had the balls to take on representatives of government one might have possibly have had some tiny bit of respect for his resoluteness. As it is, he took on children. -Blameless, defenseless and powerless.
No matter WHAT context, he is scum. Worthy only of death. Anything less is BS. And no amount of apologetics changes the fact that this cowardly piece of shit mass-murdered children.
This is murder of innocent children. There is no other way to put it. It is morally reprehensible.
If this worthless sonofabitch had had the balls to take on representatives of government one might have possibly have had some tiny bit of respect for his resoluteness. As it is, he took on children. -Blameless, defenseless and powerless.
No matter WHAT context, he is scum. Worthy only of death. Anything less is BS. And no amount of apologetics changes the fact that this cowardly piece of shit mass-murdered children.
Dressed to Kill
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Great post !
![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
I think we've seen that weapon before...
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MaverickNH
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...osed-hearing/2011/07/25/gIQAPQTDYI_story.html
"The search for more victims continues and police have not released the names of the dead. But Norway’s royal court said Monday that those killed at the island retreat included Crown Princess Mette-Marit’s stepbrother, an off-duty police officer, who was working there as a security guard."
<<Who wants to say it?
"The search for more victims continues and police have not released the names of the dead. But Norway’s royal court said Monday that those killed at the island retreat included Crown Princess Mette-Marit’s stepbrother, an off-duty police officer, who was working there as a security guard."
<<Who wants to say it?
Respectfully, I don't think you understand what Jose is saying.
MaverickNH
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Nothing but CCW can help.
From various sources:
"There had also been anger among some of the grieving families after suggestions that a security guard at the summer camp had not been at his post and had failed to apprehend the gunman.
However, police officials confirmed he had been at the scene, but had been one of Breivik's first victims."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...rway-shooting-police-response-criticised.html
"Police in Norway are generally unarmed and Berntsen, who had taken on the extra job as a private security guard and was not in police service on Utøya, was unarmed as well. But his son said he attempted to stop the gunman when he started firing, only to be shot and killed himself."
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/07/25/horrific-details-continue-to-emerge/
From various sources:
"There had also been anger among some of the grieving families after suggestions that a security guard at the summer camp had not been at his post and had failed to apprehend the gunman.
However, police officials confirmed he had been at the scene, but had been one of Breivik's first victims."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...rway-shooting-police-response-criticised.html
"Police in Norway are generally unarmed and Berntsen, who had taken on the extra job as a private security guard and was not in police service on Utøya, was unarmed as well. But his son said he attempted to stop the gunman when he started firing, only to be shot and killed himself."
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/07/25/horrific-details-continue-to-emerge/
Mr Weebles:1969907 said:
Not so respectfully, jose is yet again spewing bs out of both sides of his mouth. If this act had been committed by a muslim, he would NEVER be anywhere close to defending it, as proven by numerous posts in the past. But when a right winger commits violence against the left, even children, we hear not even a hint of condemnation, in fact we hear him excusing the act as something that happens in civil wars all the time. So i ask you, jose, is milosivic a hero of yours??? By your logic his acts are totally justified??
Anyone who defends or makes excuses for tjis mans actions needs their head checked.
namedpipes
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Granted, Norway is not currently a hotbed of violent criminal activity, but really, what is the point of a policeman that doesn't have the tools to do his job?
Boghog1
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So was this acceptable http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-641
where as the acts of this gun man being unacceptable?
Chill out people, I didn't see Jose say he "condones" this, just that he understands why it happened, sees it happening again in the future, and isn't loosing any sleep over it.
Got to love the unarmed police over there. A seal team could take over the entire country.
Got to love the unarmed police over there. A seal team could take over the entire country.
hpm
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Found this on wiki...'if need arises they have to get permission' - I wouldn't want to be a police officer there.
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