BOHICA: U.S. quietly begins to study gun safety

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I heard this on Glenn Beck as well, confirmed with this article:

U.S. quietly begins to study gun safety

So basically, National Institutes of Health is looking at the risk of gun ownership as a public health issue. Obama is looking to pass the most sweeping Health Care reforms and make us a third world magnet. And we are to believe this is not going to impact premiums for all gun owners due to the increased liability and thus will make gun ownership (like all hazardous occupations) cost-prohibitive to own one.

Right... [thinking]

As one of the comments stated:

Look at the size of that camels' nose! Maybe some teenage hunter will bag it before it gets further into the tent. We can hope anyway.
 
as far as i know we still have a voice and vote unless something has changed in 24 hours, we can make a diffrence if we do not shame on us imho. ( if we sit and do nothing they have a win win )
 
We have a vote and a voice. But we are in the minority. And as such, our voice can be ignored, and our votes can be laughed at. The only thing working in our favor is the 2nd - especially in MA.
 
as far as i know we still have a voice and vote unless something has changed in 24 hours, we can make a diffrence if we do not shame on us imho. ( if we sit and do nothing they have a win win )

Do you live in MA? You don't have (much) of a vote if you do. The tyranny of the majority is alive and well in this state.

-Mike
 
Gun Safety???? That's an oxymoron, guns are evil and dangerous. That is why they must be kept disassembled as well as locked up in a good strong safe. If they ever got loose, god only knows what mayhem would ensue.
 
Gun Safety???? That's an oxymoron, guns are evil and dangerous. That is why they must be kept disassembled as well as locked up in a good strong safe. If they ever got loose, god only knows what mayhem would ensue.

If guns got loose maybe crime would be less like it is down South in comparison to the liberal North. Nobody plays games with anyone down there because if you do, you might get shot- it lends to a much more peaceful existance where everyone tries to get along and almost everyone understands the concept of what's right and wrong. If they don't understand, they get an immediate lesson, not a warm place to stay, 3 squares a day, cable TV, and free babysitting services for themselves.
 
“If you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it,’’ Obama said. But the Illinois senator could still see skeptics in the crowd, particularly on the faces of several men at the back of the room. So he tried again. “Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,’’ he said. “This can’t be the reason not to vote for me. Can everyone hear me in the back? I see a couple of sportsmen back there. I’m not going to take away your guns.’’

Duryea, PA Friday 5 September 2008




Thursday, October 22, 2009
EDITORIAL: The feds take a shot at guns

For a decade, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been forbidden by Congress from doing research on gun-control issues. Such piddling hurdles as federal law don't matter to the Obama administration.

With a wave of a hand, the CDC has simply redefined gun-control research so the ban no longer applies. They're not researching guns; they're researching alcohol sales and their impact on gun violence, or researching how teens carrying guns affect the rates of non-gun injuries. "These particular grants do not address gun control; rather they deal with the surrounding web of circumstances," wrote National Institutes of Health (NIH) spokesman Don Ralbovsky.

Gun-control advocates claim that banning the CDC from examining gun control amounts to a gag order on science. After all, what can be wrong with further scientific inquiry? But the issue isn't about scientific inquiry. It is whether government resources should be used to promote an ideological agenda.

Take the Obama administration's justification for its new gun research. "Gun-related violence is a public health problem - it diverts considerable health care resources away from other problems and, therefore, is of interest to NIH," wrote the agency spokesman in an e-mail responding to questions from Republican members of Congress about new grants the CDC is giving out. The statement assumes the conclusion of the research before the first study is done.

The research on right-to-carry laws illustrates the problem with the CDC. Dozens of refereed academic studies by economists and criminologists using national data have been published in journals. While the vast majority of those studies find that right-to-carry laws save lives and reduce harm to victims, some studies claim that the laws have no statistically significant effect. But most tellingly, there is not a single published refereed academic study by a criminologist or economist showing a bad effect from these laws.

Look at the refereed academic research on laws that require people to lock up their guns in their homes. The number of accidental gun deaths and suicides of children remain unchanged, but the number of murders and other crimes rises. This is not too surprising as the locks make it more difficult for potential victims to quickly obtain a gun for protection, hence criminals are less likely to be deterred. Accidental gun deaths aren't affected because most involve guns fired by adults with criminal records.

The research on guns that the CDC conducted before the ban - and that "public health" advocates continue to produce - is a joke. The statistical methods to research people's behavior, such as criminal activity, are different from methods used to evaluate drug efficacy, where controlled experiments can be done.

In drug studies, patients don't determine who gets the real drug and who gets the placebo. In real life, gun ownership isn't assigned randomly. People who are more likely to be victims are more likely to own guns. They may still be more likely to be victims even after getting a gun, but are much less likely to be a victim than they would have been if they had never gotten one.

The CDC's brazen end run around restrictions on gun-control research is hardly surprising given that when President Obama served on the board of the Joyce Foundation, it was the largest private funder of gun-ban research in the country. Now he has the resources of the whole federal government.

First we'll get the half-baked studies followed by fawning press coverage. Then Democratic politicians and activists will pretend the gun restrictions they've always wanted were spurred by the new government research.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/22/the-feds-take-a-shot-at-guns/
 
If guns got loose maybe crime would be less like it is down South in comparison to the liberal North. Nobody plays games with anyone down there because if you do, you might get shot- it lends to a much more peaceful existance where everyone tries to get along and almost everyone understands the concept of what's right and wrong. If they don't understand, they get an immediate lesson, not a warm place to stay, 3 squares a day, cable TV, and free babysitting services for themselves.
Ronnie van Zant wrote a song about the consequences of playing games with fellow southerners. One night, an armed and angry husband confronted him in a bar while he was drinking and dancing with the guy's wife ("Gimme Three Steps", which became a hit for Lynyrd Skynyrd). While I was in Corpus Christi, TX, I browsed around a gun shop in a mall. Can you imagine a gun shop in a mall in MA? The sheep would be terrified!
 
Yup...I can see the federal questionairre to purchase the new government health insurance policy.

Do you drink? Yes (add $100 a month)
Do you smoke? Yes (add $100 a month)
Do you own firearms? (add $300 a month)

And you must buy health insurance or be penalized.....welcome to Communism!
 
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