You can view the page at http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/content.php/68
If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for a NES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
Be sure to enter the NES/MFS May Giveaway ***Canik METE SFX***
I do not support her but not all of us are Catholics or even christians. No one is telling me what I can or cannot do based on their religious beliefs. I will not support any laws influenced by religious bias.
So we should force Catholic hospitals to start doing abortions?
Yeah. Wow.I love Pittman's response: "Wow..."
I do not support her but not all of us are Catholics or even christians. No one is telling me what I can or cannot do based on their religious beliefs. I will not support any laws influenced by religious bias.
I think you may be seeing this a bit backwards......... Who cares about the religious aspect. The Bill has nothing to do with "religion" Instead protect people who believe differently. ( you dont have to believe in god to disagree with abortion or contraception )
If you don't believe in abortions, don't get one. If you need one, get one. Oops, we're not supposed to talk about abortion, are we?
fI dont belive in abortion DONT MAKE ME PERFORM ONE......... pretty simple really. I respect your right to do as you may with your body, you respect my right to do as I may or may not with mine. why is that so hard?
I do not support her but not all of us are Catholics or even christians. No one is telling me what I can or cannot do based on their religious beliefs. I will not support any laws influenced by religious bias.
So we should force Catholic hospitals to start doing abortions?
Wolfhook, our whole form of government and laws are based upon Godly men that wanted equal rights for all. They based our laws on what IS wrong and what IS right. With that said, I am a born again Christian that agrees not pushing religious beliefs on any one. Presenting properly, yes, pushing. no.
YES. And I am a "Catholic". If you want to call your establishment a hospital then you have to follow every other rule about patient informatoin, procedures, etc then you need to provide all forms of available medicine. If you don't want to - which is fine - then don't be a hospital. Or at least don't be a hospital with an emergency room. Be a private clinic where you can take or deny any appointment you want. I'm sure there's some alternative to "hospital".
By your argument a christian scientist can open a hospital and what, provide no medicine because it's their religious belief?
YES. And I am a "Catholic". If you want to call your establishment a hospital then you have to follow every other rule about patient informatoin, procedures, etc then you need to provide all forms of available medicine. If you don't want to - which is fine - then don't be a hospital. Or at least don't be a hospital with an emergency room. Be a private clinic where you can take or deny any appointment you want. I'm sure there's some alternative to "hospital".
By your argument a christian scientist can open a hospital and what, provide no medicine because it's their religious belief?
A doctor can deny a procedure if there is a science based medical reason why it is not in the best interest of the patient, but not because they have an OPINION that it shouldnt be done based on scripture. I agree that nobody should be forced to perform these acts if they dont want to, but lets be reasonable, if you open a facility with a giant sign that says Emergency Room, and then you start pick and choosing what care you'll give based on your religous beliefs, thats not good for anyone. In some situations it may even be you forcing your views on other people, what if there are no other hospitals for 100 miles and the person cant afford to go shop around for a contraceptive friendly hospital after being violently raped?
A doctor can deny a procedure if there is a science based medical reason why it is not in the best interest of the patient, but not because they have an OPINION that it shouldnt be done based on scripture. I agree that nobody should be forced to perform these acts if they dont want to, but lets be reasonable, if you open a facility with a giant sign that says Emergency Room, and then you start pick and choosing what care you'll give based on your religous beliefs, thats not good for anyone. In some situations it may even be you forcing your views on other people, what if there are no other hospitals for 100 miles and the person cant afford to go shop around for a contraceptive friendly hospital after being violently raped?
Emergency rooms must provide all available medicine. period.
No. ERs must provide life-saving care. They do not have to provide every treatment that a patient might demand.
By your argument a christian scientist can open a hospital and what, provide no medicine because it's their religious belief?