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Right - do NOT worry about it. 10 round is just FINE.

I can't remember specifically, but I think that there's only one section on the AQT where you load up 20... and since I've never HAD anything with 20 round mags to shoot it with, I just look at it as practice to load faster. Either with 8 round clips or 10 round mags. Once I get my carbine sorted out, I'll have 30 rounders to play with, though! [smile]

Heck, lots of people shoot it with Garands - and load 8 and 2 with a reload in there. No worries, mate, we're after Riflemen and women; not gadgeteers, and it's not an arms race as to who can get the biggest mags. It's what you can HIT with the rounds you have. And how well you can spread the word and recruit MORE Riflemen and women to try and put our poor battered country back on track.
 
Two ten round (or more) mags per person is perfect. Somebody got a little carried away writing the five twenty round mag thing. I can't think of anything ever done in an appleseed that would've used five twenty round mags. The firing strings are usually ten round strings either all in one mag or broken up across two mags. Every once in a while there is a forty round rapid fire string where it would be nice to have a forty round mag, or two twenties, or four tens but that's a more advanced thing for after you get your ducks in a row with the usual strings of ten.

So to get 100% of the experience each person should have enough mag capacity for 40 rounds. To get 95% of the experience each person needs two mags with a total capacity for 10 rounds. And if you just have one 10 round mag or some other setup that's fine too.
 
Thanks Ross and Crak,

I have not tried it yet but I also hope my 30 rd. mags for the AK are not too long for comfortable shooting in the prone position. Guess I need to try it and hopefully Mrs. Mag won't think I am to weird lying on the ground with my gun in the house.
 
Mikey said:
I have not tried it yet but I also hope my 30 rd. mags for the AK are not too long for comfortable shooting in the prone position. Guess I need to try it and hopefully Mrs. Mag won't think I am to weird lying on the ground with my gun in the house.
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My guess is that it probably will be too long - do they even make 10 rounders for the AKs?

And I don't think that Mrs Mag will think you're weird for lying on the floor with your gun in your hands... especially since she should be lying RIGHT NEXT TO YOU WITH HER GUN IN HER HANDS! Right, Kim?

Seriously, that's one of Fred's recommendations - to get into the prone position a few times a week so it becomes natural and your body gets used to it. And it's a GOOD idea, trust me on that. Try doing it all weekend without practicing it and you'll be complaining about feeling my age. [wink] You really do get stiff and sore trying to get into positions you're not used to.
 
My evening commitment for Monday was just canceled, so I'm IN for Monday night! My LTRs won't be ready yet, but I'll be there for sure with my AR-15.

I went to my first Appleseed in Proctor, VT on the 11th & 12th with Dwarven1, and I had a phenomenal time - I couldn't believe how much I learned and improved in such a short time. And the history and heritage of the American rifleman really made the weekend special. I very highly endorse the Appleseed program.

I believe there are only two more Monday night Appleseed shoots left this summer - I'd really encourage you guys to do what it takes to get out there before it's too late.
 
matt said:
Any thoughts on what to add to a 10/22 for a sling? I really want to do this...
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Cross-posted from www.appleseedinfo.org:

Nickle said:
Well, here's what I did (or will do, in the case of a couple items), the cost of the items, and this is a decent priced, working setup. All prices are retail. They are not special or sale prices, nor are they group buy prices. These are 24/7/365 retail prices.

First, I started with Ruger 10/22 Carbines.

Add Tech Sights. Add DPMS Rapidex knob, for ease of adjusting (optional).
http://www.tech-sights.com/ruger3.htm $55.00
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=353544 $8.49

Install sling swivels studs, detachable swivels and a USGI M1 Garand type sling.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=366960 $2.49
[If you don't want to use the barrel band, you could also use these: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=887160 - Ross
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=270453 $6.79
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=777813 $10.29, black, also comes in green.

Add extended bolt release.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=662086 $4.49

Replace bolt release and hammer (or rework existing ones). I reworked mine. Not for the inexperienced.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=145851 $35.99

Add a BoreSnake, sight adjusting tool and spare mags.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=260083 $14.49
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=260328 $6.99
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=252579 $12.99 each. I recommend at LEAST 3 of them.
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Here's the link to the whole thread; you may want to read it through as there are a TON of great ideas tossed out there. Warning - I think that you need to register for the forum. Don't worry; we're mostly... well, OK, we're not by any stretch of the imagination harmless, but we're VERY friendly!
 
Dwarven1, I was just searching for that post!

In any case, those are the guidelines I'm using for my build(s), except with one rifle I'm using a 10/22-T as a base and a KID trigger group. If you can't tell, I'm kinda excited!
 
dwarven1 said:
Cross-posted from www.appleseedinfo.org:



Here's the link to the whole thread; you may want to read it through as there are a TON of great ideas tossed out there. Warning - I think that you need to register for the forum. Don't worry; we're mostly... well, OK, we're not by any stretch of the imagination harmless, but we're VERY friendly!
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Perfect! Thanks. I'll have them shortly, along with a Clark Custom trigger upgrade. (not quite the KID, but hey...)
 
dwarven1 said:
My guess is that it probably will be too long - do they even make 10 rounders for the AKs?
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Yes they make 10 rounders, I will check out the 30 rd. mags tonight to see if they are a hindrance. I would really love some of the 20 rd. "tanker" mags but thanks to MA AWB they seem hard to come by.
 
Well, Mikey... ya know, if'n ya had them there eeeeevil 20 round mags, you'd probably be tempted to go spray down Bacon Hill with gunfire. With the 10 rounders, you can only get 10 of them at a time before you have to reload... and I guess they think that Massachusetts sheep - I mean, subjects... Um... make that "citizens" are too dumb to figure out how to reload. [rolleyes]

Either that, or they figure that the eeeeeevil influence of the One Ring high capacity magazines wanes with time and the older ones are safe, but not the new ones.
 
The 20 rounders are available at Law Enforcement Supply in Waltham.
I bought one there not too long ago.

F

Mikey said:
Yes they make 10 rounders, I will check out the 30 rd. mags tonight to see if they are a hindrance. I would really love some of the 20 rd. "tanker" mags but thanks to MA AWB they seem hard to come by.
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There's a guy in North Carolina named Wildman who cleaned our clocks with his 1903 shooting stuff 500 yards away with irons. And Rick from Harvard made a strong showing with his 1903 (if not for a little elevation adjustment at our first local appleseed here.

So bring it. [smile]
 
Mikey said:
Another questions.

I was just on the appleseedinfo forum reading about what you should bring and it says 5 mags with at least 20 rd. capacity. I only have 10 rd. mags for the 10/22 that will either be my "buckup" rifle or what Mrs. Magnum will use if she goes. I assume the 20 rd. limit is not too "important" right?
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10 round mags are fine. Only a couple of portions of a full Appleseed calls for more than 10 rounds (13 rounds), and those are the Redcoat targets you just saw. We give you enough time on those to switch mags, unless you're REALLY S L O W.

You'll want at least 4 10 round mags for that 10/22. Come up to a VT Appleseed, or when I come down for a full Appleseed (April hopefully), and you WILL NEED them. I do Rapid Fire AQT drills. Ask Dwarven1 about them.
 
OK, you don't need a Clark Trigger. They're nice, but really more $$$ that could be spent on stuff you DO need, like ammo and practice.

About 10/22 Barrel Bands. Get RID of them. They can cause a loss of accuracy. Ask Ross what he thought of the rifle he was using and Smallz was using.

And, at Proctor, we had a guy shoot Rifleman (213, IIRC) with a Ruger 77/22 bolt gun, and that was a reduced time AQT, almost as bad as a Rapid Fire AQT.
 
Nickle said:
OK, you don't need a Clark Trigger. They're nice, but really more $$$ that could be spent on stuff you DO need, like ammo and practice.

About 10/22 Barrel Bands. Get RID of them. They can cause a loss of accuracy. Ask Ross what he thought of the rifle he was using and Smallz was using.

And, at Proctor, we had a guy shoot Rifleman (213, IIRC) with a Ruger 77/22 bolt gun, and that was a reduced time AQT, almost as bad as a Rapid Fire AQT.
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The trigger on my 10/22 is pretty bad. It is very notchy/gritty.

Regarding the barrel band: you just pull it off?
 
Nickle said:
About 10/22 Barrel Bands. Get RID of them. They can cause a loss of accuracy. Ask Ross what he thought of the rifle he was using and Smallz was using.
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Then why do you say to order these sling swivel studs as opposed to these? What do you do with the machine screw threaded stud; drill a through hole in the stock under the barrel and secure it with that nut, cutting off the excess?

I have my sling mounted to the barrel band on my 10/22, and while I wasn't doing 4 MOA at the range Monday night, I wasn't all over the paper - and that was standing, which is not my most accurate shooting position.
 
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Don'tcha see, Mike, if zombies are coming after you, the sling stabilizes your rifle and allows you to shoot them farther away - thus giving you more time to pick them off, or make your escape if you realize that you don't have enough ammo (if it's a class 3 or 4 outbreak).

See? Appleseed has real life applications!

OK, I pasted the wrong link. [wink] I've corrected it now.
 
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Gee, and all this time I thought you did Appleseed shoots to recapture the heritage of our great American revolutionaries but in reality it’s all about the zombies.[smile]
 

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