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“Everybody knows he’s got weapons and that,” neighbor Dennis Spratt said. “You don’t rob that man. No one around here, they know better for years. He’s been a retired police officer and firefighter.”
Back in Richwoods, neighbors are shocked, not so much that a crime happened, but that anyone would be foolish enough to try to rob Cobb’s. “Everybody knows he’s got weapons and that,” neighbor Dennis Spratt said. “You don’t rob that man. No one around here, they know better for years.
Just the same, police aren’t saying one way or another if he might face any charges.
im all for a feel good story...what would they charge him with tho if they were to do so? Would it be because the guy was fleeing?
im all for a feel good story...what would they charge him with tho if they were to do so? Would it be because the guy was fleeing?
In MA it would absolutely, positively be charged as he "wasn't a threat" at that point, assuming the door is more than a few feet away. Then as a defense you'd have to introduce all of that 21 foot knife vs gun stuff and prove that you were in fear of imminent bodily harm, and maybe you'd be acquitted. But prosecuting you wasn't the point, the point would have been to keep others from using a gun in self defense.
Absolutely AND positively! You have any prior case to cite?
I haven't goose stepped in a long time lol.Well, let's see... there was this guy with a knife killing people and the guy who shot him dead and saved the lives of others was harassed, under threat of prosecution and disarmed for what, 6 or 12 months?
I guess they realized that the actual prosecution wasn't needed, and a likely acquittal would damage their goal of scaring anyone from using a gun in self defense (of others).
I could probably find similar ones.
So what's good for the goose is good for the goose-stepping-apologizer...(LOL just kidding)
...you got a (non)case to cite where a civilian shooting a perp was given an attaboy and had his gun back in say, under a month?
I haven't goose stepped in a long time lol.
i don't know what case you're talking about tho in regards to the disarmed for 6 to 12 months one you mention above,
The latest one I can think of that was non processed was the guy in Boston, December 2013 ish. Shot the 2 guys trying to break into his apt. When he got his gun back tho, I have no idea.
Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel Conley said Wednesday that Paul Langone (lan-GOHN') acted in self-defense and the defense of Dr. Astrid Desrosiers (deh-ROH'-zhurs) when he fired at 37-year-old Jay Carciero (car-see-EH'-roh).
Conley made his decision after a five-month probe.
Authorities said Carciero stabbed Desrosiers numerous times in October 2009 before being shot by Langone in an office leased by Massachusetts General Hospital.
Police said Langone shot at Carciero with his personal firearm, hitting him twice, after Carciero ignored the officer's order to drop his weapon
Desrosiers was released from the hospital the following month.
Took me a bit to find it. They investigated the hero for FIVE MONTHS before announcing there would be no charges. The shooting was at the end of October (28th? give or take) and the no charges decision was at the end of March.
Hmmm. So, the real question isn't when they gave him his gun back, but whether his LTC was or was not ****ed with for that period.
Not really! LOL
The issue is that if you shoot someone in MA it doesn't come with an attaboy, it comes with major legal hassles no matter how freaking righteous the shoot.
So if the guy has retreated to the door and turns around, I'm guessing that's at least twice as along an investigation as a guy who kills someone actively stabbing a doctor... whattaya think?
The attaboy was figurative and what this clerk got, he was back behind his counter in three hours.I don't agree that if it's a " good" shoot , you don't get an attaboy. If you're in a shooting, and your goal is to get a gold star on your forehead, or a frame worthy piece of card stock paper saying " wicked ****ing excellent job there Rambo!" for your fridge, you're on the wrong planet. Your goals shoul be the safety/preservation of you and your family etc. The " attaboy" is the fact that you saved the day, and the lives of your family, and possibly some harp seals.
Anybody, in any state, involved in a shooting, no matter how righteous, will be ensconced in legal hassles. That part is a given.
if you explain ( articulate) that the guy " retreated" to the door, and turned around and you blasted him, yup, you may have some splaining to do Lucy.
If you explain that the guy ran to the door and spun around, and you felt he had " regrouped" and began to come at you with his knife/sword/mace in a renewed and aggressive fashion, causing you to fire your gun at him because you felt he was going to kill/hurt/blind you and/or young Hansel and Gretel, it's a bit different then just turning around.
You may indeed call me me "G" or you could just call me Glen lol.The attaboy was figurative and what this clerk got, he was back behind his counter in three hours.
The whole point, my dear GPP (may I call you "G"?) is it would be a bad day compounded by an seemingly endless nightmare of investigation by the MA.gov prosecutor-politician who believes his political and financial fortunes rest on the back of being tougher on the law abiding gun owner than on bad guys.
A five month investigation would almost certainly include perusal of on-line forums to see if you ever wrote anything that could indicate you were predisposed to a "kill em all and let God sort em out" mentality rather than adopting the position "use of a gun to be avoid at any cost except death or grevious injury to yourself or an innocent". Something to keep in mind when posting on NES.They investigated the hero for FIVE MONTHS before announcing there would be no charges.
Yes, but if you are a cop, it may not be an "endless nightmare". An excellent example was the Framingham SWAT raid where a cop shot an innocent in the neck. Before ANY facts were in, the DA was already saying "may be an accident in which case no charges would be appropriate".The seemingly endless nightmare of investigation by the MA.gov prosecutor-politician is coming no matter who the hell you are; cop, shire reeve, or civilian.
Depends on your badge status more that the circumstances of the shooting.The bigger question is if your right to 2A is suspended or revoked during the buttscope.
And under threat of civil litigation for something like 3 years.under threat of prosecution and disarmed for what, 6 or 12 months?
Meh. A good shoot, is a good shoot.A five month investigation would almost certainly include perusal of on-line forums to see if you ever wrote anything that could indicate you were predisposed to a "kill em all and let God sort em out" mentality rather than adopting the position "use of a gun to be avoid at any cost except death or grevious injury to yourself or an innocent". Something to keep in mind when posting on NES.
Any you probably believe that innocent people are never convicted.Meh. A good shoot, is a good shoot.
Im not sure how you got to DNA exoneration.Any you probably believe that innocent people are never convicted.
All those people freed by DNA exoneration - the tip of the iceberg.
A five month investigation would almost certainly include perusal of on-line forums to see if you ever wrote anything that could indicate you were predisposed to a "kill em all and let God sort em out" mentality rather than adopting the position "use of a gun to be avoid at any cost except death or grevious injury to yourself or an innocent". Something to keep in mind when posting on NES.
Yes, but if you are a cop, it may not be an "endless nightmare". An excellent example was the Framingham SWAT raid where a cop shot an innocent in the neck. Before ANY facts were in, the DA was already saying "may be an accident in which case no charges would be appropriate".
Depends on your badge status more that the circumstances of the shooting.
And under threat of civil litigation for something like 3 years.
Im not sure how you got to DNA exoneration.
I'm talking about a shooting.
Criminally speaking, it's pretty cut and dry.
Civilly speaking, totally different story. Lawyers get ahold of civil cases where shootings are involved, and it's game on, the only thing in the crosshairs is $$$$$.
Criminal case? Not so much. Either it's good, or it isn't. Depending on what kind of law you practice, you should already know this.
where does DNA enter in this?