Ammo Run - Holy Moly!!

I shudder to say this out loud but... [thinking]

Is this like Y2K for the 2A fringe?

There was a fringe element who, while well intentioned and correctly suspicious of the government's generally wildly optimistic claims of seamless roll over, were generally rather too panicky about Y2K and spent the week in their shelters when really all you needed to do was have some cash/food on hand for a potential 24-48 disruption while the computers were rebooted in most of the worst cases...

I guess what I am saying is that the libtards are trying to paint tea parties as something more than what they really are (they are peaceful protests) - I am wondering if the "fringe" is worried about potential government response?

With all the web crawlers out there claiming to predict the future based on web chatter - it wouldn't be hard to draw that conclusion[sad2])

Ugh, I am deeply saddened that I even to entertain such thoughts...

But, it is odd that people would decide to do another panic push this weekend... [thinking]
 
cekim said:
I shudder to say this out loud but... [thinking]

Is this like Y2K for the 2A fringe?

There was a fringe element who, while well intentioned and correctly suspicious of the government's generally wildly optimistic claims of seamless roll over, were generally rather too panicky about Y2K and spent the week in their shelters when really all you needed to do was have some cash/food on hand for a potential 24-48 disruption while the computers were rebooted in most of the worst cases...

I guess what I am saying is that the libtards are trying to paint tea parties as something more than what they really are (they are peaceful protests) - I am wondering if the "fringe" is worried about potential government response?

With all the web crawlers out there claiming to predict the future based on web chatter - it wouldn't be hard to draw that conclusion[sad2])

Ugh, I am deeply saddened that I even to entertain such thoughts...

But, it is odd that people would decide to do another panic push this weekend... [thinking]
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There is one major difference between what the " Y2K fringe " guys were worried about - and comparing the real estate market bubble and the gun and ammo buying (potential bubble) . The difference is that the Y2K thing had never happened before - and to those in the know there was a very easy fix (set the dates back on any affected system until a real fix can be found). The real estate bubble thing had happened before (though not to this extent) - and had popped. So again - to those in the know there was a definable outcome to that also.

The gun/ammo buying spree-bubble also has a potentially historically proven outcome: complete and total outright bans and confiscations. It has happened before time and time again in other countries. In this country there really has been no ebb and flow of gun rights - it has been a constant downward trend. If you were to go back 100 years you would see there was little to no gun legislation - you could go into a local hardware store and pick out a rifle the same way you would pick up a Dewalt cordless drill today. In the 1920's you could buy a full auto Thompson in pretty much the same manner.

Now you can't buy full auto unless you are specially licensed - and the prices are absurdly high because the government has banned any more production for the civilian market. The government has banned importation of ammo from outside the country. The government(s) of many states have enacted outright registration of all firearms, and you need to have a license. Our local and national Democratic parties have a large contingent of people who would like nothing better to see all guns disappear. And a good portion of those people now hold the reigns of power in Washington and have come right out and said that they would like to see another AWB - or maybe worse (from out perspective).

The last AWB had a sunshine clause - we got lucky on that one. The next one will not - you can bet on that.

There have been some victories. The Heller decision (still very close). Castle Doctrine laws in many states (which national Dems would overturn with Federal law if they could). More people getting involved in shooting - especially women. This is a double edged sword though - because we are potentialy acquiring a huge new source of Fudd type gun owners who will give up their rights if given the appropriately worded argument (save the children?!)

As far as I am concerned the long term trend for gun rights in this country has been down - and the forces that want that are still strong and are now currently in charge. The outcome is not clear by any stretch of the imagination.

There are also many ways to fight a war - the reason why we are seeing so much more negative press against guns is because the gun grabbers are in charge - and the country in general is responding by waging economic war against the government. People are putting their money where their mouths are and casting votes that say: " I want a gun".

People tend to get pissed when you screw with their money and their property - therefore the more people spend their money to acquire property that the government doesn't want you to have - the harder and harder it gets to ban that property. Hence - the anti gunners' must launch a counteroffensive to try and stem the tide.

I say let the panic continue - once the gun banning idiots in the Democratic party (and some on the Republican side) finally jump the shark and try to enact legislation banning guns you will see a shitstorm. There are quite obviously a LARGE number of people who want to buy a gun and stock up on ammo. They do this because they are afraid. If the govt. makes any moves in the direction of gun or ammo bans - what they will do is absolutely confirm what people have been fearing. Sure - it will drive the buying frenzy even higher and more costlier - but again - like I said above: this is a war. You must recognize it as such. There will be costs. On our side the cost is extremely costly ammo and gun prices.

On their side - if enough people get scared enough to turn their fear into political action to get rid of the gun banners once and for all - the cost will hopefully be massive defeat.

We still have not seen the end-game from all of this. Keep your chips in play and cast your vote by spreading the paranioa and buying as much as you can. We have got them on the run now (the gun banners) - and they are scared. There is no excuse for total victory.
 
It's getting worse...

LATEST CMP SALES NEWS:

SOLD OUT - 415-CN. As a result over 9,000 orders already in estore and the many hundreds of other orders (received through the mail and via phone) that have not yet been entered into our system, and the number of orders estimated to already be in the mail coming our way, we have posted item 415-CN as sold out and removed it from the Estore. M2 Ball, HXP, 240 rounds in 20 round cartons, in spam cans. We will be able to fill all orders already received and in the pipeline.

30-06 M2 BALL PURCHASE LIMITS ESTABLISHED. Effective immediately, CMP is setting a purchase limit for items 407-CAN (.30-06 M2 Ball, HXP, clipped, in spam cans) and 407DCAN (.30-06 M2 Ball, clipped, in .30 cal ammo can). The new purchase limit is total of 10 cans of HXP ammo per year, per customer, regardless of item numbers ordered.

ORDER BACKLOG. For the past six months, the number of orders received by CMP for rifles, ammunition, and all other products has been unprecedented. As of today, 10 April 2009, our Sales Order Processing Dept is up to processing / shipping orders received at the end of Jan 2009, with several thousand orders still to go for Feb and Mar. Because of the large volume of orders that we continue to receive daily in the mail and through the estore, customers should not expect any acknowledgment of our receiving orders for
30-45 days after mailing the order, and should not expect delivery for 90-120 days from placing an order. We ask our customers to bear with us. We will eventually recover from this surge. The CMP staff thanks you for your support and patience.

COMMUNICATION RESPONSE DELAYS. CMP is receiving hundreds of calls a day, as well as hundreds of emails. Each morning there are dozens of voicemails from the night before. Because of the large volume of constant calls in the daytime, it may take a few days for response. We have a state of the art phone system for a company our size, but the volume of calls is causing the system to do unexpected things. We apologize for any delay in responding to emails or telephone calls.

Thank you for your support of the CMP in these historic times.

Orest Michaels
Chief Operating Officer
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LoginName said:
It's getting worse...
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I was just reading that same notice in my email.

In before the close!

I put in a order a few weeks back for 16 cans of the 30.06. Glad I did - now they have a 10 can limit.

At this rate the CMP is going to be sold out of rifles and ammo in a few months. I have not heard anything about any new stuff coming their way - so it will be interesting to see what happens after that.
 
Wife and I went to lunch with some friends in Manchester yesterday,stopped by Riley's,I walked in and walked right back out,it was so packed in there I don't see how anyone could move.I should of noticed it by having to park way out near thier warehouse.

Never in my life since Wallyworld in Amherst,NH opened have I seen a line at the outdoors counter,there was a half a dozen waiting there...assuming ammo was the reason to be in line.Wal-mart in Hooksette was out of the usual calibers.
 
cekim said:
I shudder to say this out loud but... [thinking]

Is this like Y2K for the 2A fringe?

There was a fringe element who, while well intentioned and correctly suspicious of the government's generally wildly optimistic claims of seamless roll over, were generally rather too panicky about Y2K and spent the week in their shelters when really all you needed to do was have some cash/food on hand for a potential 24-48 disruption while the computers were rebooted in most of the worst cases...

I guess what I am saying is that the libtards are trying to paint tea parties as something more than what they really are (they are peaceful protests) - I am wondering if the "fringe" is worried about potential government response?

With all the web crawlers out there claiming to predict the future based on web chatter - it wouldn't be hard to draw that conclusion[sad2])

Ugh, I am deeply saddened that I even to entertain such thoughts...

But, it is odd that people would decide to do another panic push this weekend... [thinking]
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Yes.....and hind sight is always 20/20!

Are you shitting me? The US and state governments spent more money than every other concern combined with regard to Y2K.....They didn't know what was going to happen either and spent many billions to counteract it.

No, this is way more than some "fringe" that is JUSTIFIABLY concerned about a government response with regard to guns and ammo.

The government has already tipped their hand(more than once), the cat is out of the bag and has been for for many years to anyone who has been paying even remote attention to things going on around the country.

What we are seeing now is the lower end of a long downward spiral of a situation that is about to hit rock bottom.

When multiple state governments are being driven to, or are already declaring Sovereignty within their tenth ammendment rights, you can bet that the people whom they represent are already ten steps higher on the scale of anger and anxiety with regard to the out of control federal government and its seemingly unending fast tracking of the imposition of socialism and oppression on American citizens.
 
Finalygotabeltfed said:
Are you shitting me? The US and state governments spent more money than every other concern combined with regard to Y2K.....They didn't know what was going to happen either and spent many billions to counteract it.
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Most of which was not necessary... [sad2]

Paid my bills for a few years though (I didn't do Y2k directly, but the resultant tech build out was in no small part funded by that)...

Again, I am not saying that in the longer term the "build up" is not warranted... Not at all - that's not fringe IMO - that's reasoned response to the violently anti-gun white house and Congress we now have...

See my more recent post - I am trying to understand why THIS WEEK (i.e. the week before tax day) spiked above the already frenzied pace?

My suspicion is either an expectation of a governmental response to tea parties or fears that the tea parties might escalate outside the government...

Either case _should_ be unfounded - so only the "fringe" would be preparing for a zombi march on 4/15...
 
theGringo said:
"Sometimes paranoia's just having all the facts." - William S. Burroughs
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Understood/agreed - haven't seen anyone respond to my real question though...

The question is not why people are concerned and buying guns/ammo - I am and I am...

The question is why did they spike this week?
 
cekim said:
Most of which was not necessary... [sad2]

Again.....thats a hind sight answer that was unknown prior to the stroke of the clock on 12-31-99

Paid my bills for a few years though (I didn't do Y2k directly, but the resultant tech build out was in no small part funded by that)...

Again, I am not saying that in the longer term the "build up" is not warranted... Not at all - that's not fringe IMO - that's reasoned response to the violently anti-gun white house and Congress we now have...

See my more recent post - I am trying to understand why THIS WEEK (i.e. the week before tax day) spiked above the already frenzied pace?

Perhaps more people are doing more research, the recent number of mass shootings, media's hype, general feeling of anger and depression among the people who have had their fill of government's bullshit is starting to sink into some of the thicker skulls of those who've been in complete denial of the national and world situation.

My suspicion is either an expectation of a governmental response to tea parties or fears that the tea parties might escalate outside the government...

Either case _should_ be unfounded - so only the "fringe" would be preparing for a zombi march on 4/15...
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Either way........the guns and ammo are already in the hands of millions.......what the government does about it in response will expose their agenda once and for all.

If they think they're going to take them from everyone, they are so sadly mistaken. If they think they are going to attrit them by curtailing ammo, again, sadly mistaken.

Government's best play would be to shut the f*** up completely about guns and never mention it again......because in the end, they will have their asses handed to them.....by ballots or by bullets........the choice is theirs to make.
 
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Finalygotabeltfed said:
Again.....thats a hind sight answer that was unknown prior to the stroke of the clock on 12-31-99
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Well, I work in the tech/it/networking field, it wasn't hindsight for a lot of us... We laughed and billed away against the contracts wondering WTF was wrong with people, but fools and their money needed parting...

Beltfed said:
Either way........the guns and ammo are already in the hands of millions.......what the government does about it in response will expose their agenda once and for all.

If they think they're going to take them from everyone, they are so sadly mistaken. If they think they are going to attrit them by curtailing ammo, again, sadly mistaken.

Government's best play would be to shut the f*** up completely about guns and never mention it again......because in the end, they will have their asses handed to them.....by ballots or by bullets........the choice is theirs to make.
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Agreed, agreed and agreed...

No argument there - just trying to plan my week[wink]

I don't think people finally woke up this weekend to the broader reality - I think its something simpler than that...
 
I love a good revolutionary war thread. They all eventually turn into one.

My opinion is clearly stated in my avatar. Need I say more?
 
cekim said:
Well, I work in the tech/it/networking field, it wasn't hindsight for a lot of us... We laughed and billed away against the contracts wondering WTF was wrong with people, but fools and their money needed parting...


Agreed, agreed and agreed...

No argument there - just trying to plan my week[wink]

I don't think people finally woke up this weekend to the broader reality - I think its something simpler than that...
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Well, lets hear your best guess.
 
cekim said:
See above - I think some are worried about tax day...
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Or, the super-secret underground revolutionary council may have announced that April 18th will be the start of the armed uprising against the occupying forces of FedGov.

All I got was a strange untraceable phone call saying "John has a long mustache". I thought it was a wrong number! I'll spend the week having all my students make rubber band guns, so they'll be ready. The twang heard 'round the world!
 
cekim said:
See above - I think some are worried about tax day...
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Maybe but I'm not sure why. It should be a non-event. Most people file early anyway... I can't stand the obligatory news reports of all these sheeple standing in line at a post office that closes at midnight on April 15.

As for tea parties that day, I expect almost no media attention to them. The sheeple for the most part won't even know. I'll try to attend one anyway.

If people weren't worried until this week, they weren't paying attention since last year. In which case, I doubt anything within the last week would wake them up.

So, I have no idea what's up.
 
Wally World still has good deals, if you get there in time. My buddy spent $30 on a single box of .30-30 at a local gun (ripoff) store. This morning, I was at Walmart and found the same ammo for $11.97 a box. I bought him a couple.

I have had luck getting Walmart to tell em when the shipments of ammo are arriving and what is in them and then I am there at 0700 that morning.
 
Although probably not the actual reason for for the surge in sales, in the last couple of days I have noted my liberal dominated workplace rumbling with real irritation at the "administration".

Total glassy eyed Obama supporters showing signs of disgust over the lack of response to hostages taken by pirates, countless trillions in expanded spending, the N. Korea launch and Obama looking for quarters at the feet of the Saudi leader.

Some may have realized they voted for someone who would not take the first action to defend the people of the United States
 
I just called all the wal mart stores in my area looking for 9mm ammo - NOTHING. Dicks is closed for the holiday, and last time I was at collectors I bought them out of 9mm except for one box.... still didn't see any more in last time I went in.... its crazy I feel scared that I can't find 9mm!!
 
dagwag77 said:
I just called all the wal mart stores in my area looking for 9mm ammo - NOTHING. Dicks is closed for the holiday, and last time I was at collectors I bought them out of 9mm except for one box.... still didn't see any more in last time I went in.... its crazy I feel scared that I can't find 9mm!!
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Go to WW and find out when the next shipment of 9mm is coming in. The shelves are restocked between midnight and 0500. Show up after 0500 and get your cut rate 9mm! They are not shy about telling folks when and what shipments are coming in.
 
MassMark said:
I'm working here at DSG in Pittsfield and have hardly left the counter...I don't know what got into people today, but there has been a run on ammo like I have never seen before...9mm, .40 S&W, 45ACP, 223 - all flying out the door - regardless of price...It's madness...
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Probably from Pelosi running her mouth about a new shiny awb.
 
That's because people know that if (or when) the .gov will pass gun ban, ammo ban, or tax the hell out of us, they won't fight. They will just put up with it and beg for more control over their lives. [puke]
 

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