'17 NH Constitutional Carry, SB12 is law & U can carry if U can own, including MA res

ScottS said:
I don't know. She seems to be doing a pretty good job of neutering herself. Recycled talking points for each "outrage," the Senate passing SB12, the House taking it up, passing it, etc.

God forbid they get rid of her and put someone effective in her place.

A weak enemy is just fine with me.
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I agree with you Scott...unfortunately we have a lot of people out there with less than optimal critical thinking skills and will take what she spews as truth without question. I'm hoping Gov. Sununu sees through that and sees these "organizations" for what they are.
 
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When town elections come up ask your local town officials how they feel about the chief taking time to go to Concord to testify on local taxpayer money.

The following are officials and officers of this group.



Chief Glendron Drolet President 603-942-9101 Northwood
Chief Andy Shagoury 1st Vice President 603-569-8695 Center Tuftonboro
Chief Mark Chase 2nd Vice President 603-253-9756 Center Harbor
Chief Brent Hautanen 3rd Vice President 603-654-9452 Wilton
Chief Scott Lester Sergeant At Arms 603-588-6613 Antrim
Chief Edward Garone Secretary 603-432-6111 Derry
Chief Tara Laurent Treasurer 603-431-4624 Greenland
Chief Robert L. Cormier Immediate Past President 603-286-8207 Tilton
Chief Theodore Smith SACOP - State Association of Chiefs of Police 603-745-9000 Lincoln


Chief Richard Lapoint Coos County Representative 603-538-7003 Pittsburg
Chief Robert Dupuis Merrimack County Representative 603-648-2200 Webster
High Sheriff Douglas Dutile Grafton County Representative 603-787-2111 Grafton County Sheriff's Office
Chief Walter Madore Sullivan County Representative 603-863-6844 Grantham
Chief Kenneth Fifield Carroll County Representative 603-522-3232 Wakefield
Chief David Salois Rockingham County Representative 603-895-4222 Raymond
Chief Paul Dean Strafford County Represemntative 603-862-1427 Univ of NH Police


High Sheriff David Dubois Member at Large 603-742-4960 Dover
Chief David Goldstein Merrimack County Vice President 603-934-2535 Franklin
Assistant Commissioner Robert Quinn Member at Large 603-271-3636 X 1004 Conc
 
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The enrolling process takes forever in NH, I hope Sununu doesn't collapse under pressure and veto the bill.
 
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Feel free to hit the NH Chiefs of police for their lies:

https://www.facebook.com/NHPoliceChiefs/posts/665842963587960

THE SEX OFFENDER and CHILD CONCEALED CARRY BILL aka SB12
February 13, 2017
The legislature passed SB12 allowing carrying concealed loaded firearms without a license. This bill is seriously flawed due to the words “possession” and “firearm.” The legal and technical meanings of these words are the problem. All handguns are firearms but not all firearms are handguns. Possession by a minor is not the same as selling to a minor. The difference is who is doing the prohibited act.
The bill says a license will have to be issued to an applicant who is not prohibited by New Hampshire or federal statute from “possessing a firearm.” The section about carrying loaded “firearms” says it is legal as long as the person is not prohibited by statute from “possessing” a “firearm” in the State of New Hampshire. Unlike EVERY other constitutional carry state, New Hampshire has no law stating the minimum age to “possess” a firearm, prohibits verifying the person by fingerprints, and allows carrying on school property. Convictions for violent misdemeanor level crimes like sexual assault will not be a reason to deny a license or concealed carry.
Federal law, 18 USC 922(x) (2) (a), states the minimum age to “possess” applies only to “handguns” not “firearms.” The difference in the word used matters. Passing this bill will allow minors to carry loaded guns concealed and get licenses allowing them to carry.
We doubt most citizens and responsible gun owners agree with children and violent criminals carrying loaded guns. We would suggest people IMMEDIATELY call the Governor’s office to stop this dangerous bill.
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jpk said:
Thats why folks need to call the gov's office at 603-271-2121 and urge him to keep his campaign promise to sign constitutional carry into law

His office is most certainly getting a high volume of hysterical leftists screaming about projections of blood in the streets.........he's a politician and its a numbers game
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Called this morning and emailed as well.
 
jpk said:
Thats why folks need to call the gov's office at 603-271-2121 and urge him to keep his campaign promise to sign constitutional carry into law

His office is most certainly getting a high volume of hysterical leftists screaming about projections of blood in the streets.........he's a politician and its a numbers game
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Emailed and called again...I reminded him that a 200/97 vote in the NH House of Representatives should tell him all he needs to know.
 
I did my part days ago, but a veto--probably as soon as a big piece of national news hits--is as likely as signing the bill as things stand now.
 
jpk said:
Thats why folks need to call the gov's office at 603-271-2121 and urge him to keep his campaign promise to sign constitutional carry into law

His office is most certainly getting a high volume of hysterical leftists screaming about projections of blood in the streets.........he's a politician and its a numbers game
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I keep calling, the phone keeps ringing....
 
jpk said:
Thats why folks need to call the gov's office at 603-271-2121 and urge him to keep his campaign promise to sign constitutional carry into law

His office is most certainly getting a high volume of hysterical leftists screaming about projections of blood in the streets.........he's a politician and its a numbers game
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It is. And I'm sure he's aware of the numbers he'd lose in the next election if he goes back on signing it when he made it part of his campaign. The numbers work both ways.
 
MachineHead said:
Does this mean the "Enrollment" process is over or just started?
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See:
https://www.nh.gov/nhinfo/bills.html
and
http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/legislative/documents/08-legislative-book.pdf
(page 11)
and
http://mbba-nh.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/About-NH-Legislative-Process-2015.pdf
(page 6)

"Once the enrolling report is read in each house, the bill is
forwarded to the Secretary of State, who transmits it to the
Governor. "

The H means that was for the house. After the senate reading is complete, it will be forwarded to the governor via SoS. The status will be updated to show that when it happens.
 
Please cut and paste and email to your friends from the range. They need to know about the NHACOP.
-Design

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Dear Gun owner,

We have been telling you about the status of SB 12, Constitutional Carry as it moves through the legislative process. Today, I want to update you about the aggressive, anti-gun activities of the New Hampshire Association of Chiefs of Police (NHACOP). These public employees are using their official titles and your tax dollars to lobby against your civil right to be armed. We must counter the lies!

The NHACOP has released a press release attacking SB 12 that is not truthful. They are urging citizens to contact Governor Sununu and oppose SB 12.

We need to double our efforts. Calls and emails are still needed to make sure that Governor Sununu stands firm and honors his pledge to sign SB 12. Please contact Governor Chris Sununu and let him know that you support SB 12, Constitutional Carry. This is very important, our enemies are attempting to flood his office with calls and emails and he must hear from firearms owners.Tell Governor Sununu that you will rely upon the New Hampshire Firearms Coalition to keep you informed of their actions on SB 12, Constitutional Carry.

Now, here are the details about the anti-gun NHACOP and what you can do to fight back. Anti-gun Chief Andrew Shagoury of Tuftonboro published a letter to the editor in Fosters. The same text was posted on the NHACOP's Facebook page as a press release and in case it is removed, we made a screenshot. The claims stop short of being truthful. For instance, SB 12 does not change who can carry a firearm and where it can be carried. Students who are enrolled in schools are still subject to the policies set by the local school board. Pursuant to federal law, a minor may only posses a handgun if the minor has written permission from a parent or guardian. Criminals, remain prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms. Existing law which stipulates who is prohibited is not being changed by SB 12.

What the bill does, is to define a reasonable standard on who can carry a firearm concealed and to eliminate the abuse of the word "suitable" by anti-gun activists like Andrew Shagoury. In some towns just speaking against the police department budget at town meeting means you might be "un-suitable". SB 12 also removes the requirement to obtain a license to carry concealed on your person or loaded in a vehicle. It is important to note that New Hampshire is different from most other "open carry states", because a license is required for "loaded in a vehicle". SB 12 will eliminate this requirement and restore some freedom in New Hampshire.

These anti-gun police chiefs are creating an "us against them" adversarial relationship with the citizens who employ them. We see this in anti-gun states like New York and New Jersey. This is new to New Hampshire and we must fight back.

Here is what you can do to help, first, if your local club allows any police departments to use your range. Object loudly and let the club officers know that these are people who are hostile to your civil right to be armed. They should not be welcome at any private gun range in the state. The NHACOP conducts fundraisers. Do not financially support this anti-gun organization. They are no different from anti-gun former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Would you support Everytown for Gun Safety?

Please forward this email to your club's leadership. Ask them to forward it to the membership. Every firearms owner needs to understand who is fighting against their civil right to be armed.

Ironically, a few years ago they raffled firearms. If they ever raffle firearms again, boycott any firearms dealer who helps them by conducting transfers. Tell the dealer why you now consider them an enemy of freedom.

Click here to see the leadership of this anti-gun activist organization. Is your local chief on the list? Town meetings will be starting soon. Now is a good time to question Boards of Selectmen and your public employees about their out of town activities. We have seen these anti-gun Chiefs arrive at the statehouse in a town vehicle while wearing a town uniform. Do you really want your tax money used to fund anti-gun activism?

Please don' forget to contact Governor Chris Sununu and let him know that you support SB 12, Constitutional Carry.

Thanks for your support.

In Liberty,
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Scott A. Krauss
President - NHFC

P.S. The New Hampshire Firearms Coalition is working tirelessly to keep gun owners like you up-to-date on as many gun issues as possible -- please consider contributing to the effort by chipping in $15 or $20.

Click here to support NHFC by purchasing one of our custom rifles.

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Called, got a human

BBQ.Uncle said:
Keep trying. It rang about 30 times before I got to a voicemail.
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Unk and gang:

I just called at 1502 on 15 Feb. I got a very nice young lady on the first ring. (She ID'd herself, but I missed her name, I was so surprised at the rapid pickup). Gave my name, my address, phone number (apologized for my 617 cell number, dating to before I made aliyah), and expressed my support for this bill, and my support for Governor Sununu, as I had already expressed by my vote, conditioned in part on his promise to sign this bill. I noted that I would continue to support the Governor, and they had my number in case I could be of any assistance. She said she would "pass that on" to the Governor, which I don't presume means any more than that my input is one tick on a sheet of tick marks.

NH shooters and friends, if you haven't gotten your tick in, now's a good time. Better still if you have a 603 number to give 'em. (I don't, I only use cell; the landlines to my street are deteriorated beyond use).

It was a pleasant and brief conversation. Nobody is so busy that he can't spend a few minutes talking to the staff of something rare in New England, a political ally of peaceable gun owners.

Out of state friends: please don't help; I strongly suspect that they're getting that from the other side.
 
Who was the CoP at the legislative committee hearing that I went to a few Wednesdays ago that essentially said that he had no real issues with the bill as written except for the word "firearm"? Wasn't he a representative of the COPANH? WTF changed in 2 weeks???
 
timbo said:
Who was the COP at the legislative committee hearing that I went to a few Wednesdays ago that essentially said that he had no real issues with the bill as written except for the word "firearm"? Wasn't he a representative of the COPANH? WTF changed in 2 weeks???
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In those two weeks it became real and got passed. Im sure he was hoping it would just go away.
 
timbo said:
Who was the CoP at the legislative committee hearing that I went to a few Wednesdays ago that essentially said that he had no real issues with the bill as written except for the word "firearm"? Wasn't he a representative of the COPANH? WTF changed in 2 weeks???
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They see some of their power slipping away. I'm surprised to see my towns chief on the list. I got a renewal not two weeks ago from him in two hours time. Go figure![rolleyes] BTW Just emailed the Governor's office too.
 
Oldarmy said:
They see some of their power slipping away. I'm surprised to see my towns chief on the list. I got a renewal not two weeks ago from him in two hours time. Go figure![rolleyes] BTW Just emailed the Governor's office too.
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I'm not sure all their board members have to agree on this, but the org speaks with one voice. You may want to ask your chief - it may be he has some influence.
 
The bill is now enrolled and is headed around for signatures (Speaker, Senate President and Secretary of State). The process takes longer than any of us want, but I think it was 14 days on SB116 including the wait time for the Governor to review..
God willing by the first week of March we will be a free state.
-Design
 
design said:
The bill is now enrolled and is headed around for signatures (Speaker, Senate President and Secretary of State). The process takes longer than any of us want, but I think it was 14 days on SB116 including the wait time for the Governor to review..
God willing by the first week of March we will be a free state.
-Design
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It takes 2 weeks for them to sign it?
 

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