12 gauge O/U

RG00924 · Jan 5, 2016

Thinking of purchasing an O/U in 12 gauge.
Anyone have any experience with Cz (Huglu) shotguns.
Any recommendations for shotguns under $1000
28-30" barrel. For shooting clays

jaymce · Jan 5, 2016

Sub 1K O/U is not worth the $ better off spending it on a good new/used Semi Auto. Beretta or Benelli stay away from the Remington unless things have changed they seemed to have problems.

If you can find an older B gun (Browning or Beretta) you would be good but you will have to look and might end up with a shorter barrel length and no screw in chokes.

Lots of threads on this

mursenary4 · Jan 5, 2016

Love my beretta a300 outlander. cant recommend it enough

rep308 · Jan 5, 2016

Buy any Over/Under as long as the manufacturer starts with a "B" (Beretta or Browning). Lower end O/U's have problems with barrel regulation (both barrels with the same point of aim). For $1K you can get a semi auto 1100 sporting new. Used Beretta and Browning can be found in the $1500-$2K range, Kitttery trading post is a great source to look

icyclefar · Jan 5, 2016

rep308 said:
Buy any Over/Under as long as the manufacturer starts with a "B" (Beretta or Browning). Lower end O/U's have problems with barrel regulation (both barrels with the same point of aim). For $1K you can get a semi auto 1100 sporting new. Used Beretta and Browning can be found in the $1500-$2K range, Kitttery trading post is a great source to look

You can also add Blaser to the "B" list, and any that begin with "K", like Kolar or Krieghoff, LOL

Keeper · Jan 5, 2016

Used Lanber otherwise pay for a B gun. Do a search for Lanber here and on otber forums and you'll see this common theme.

rep308 · Jan 5, 2016

icyclefar said:
You can also add Blaser to the "B" list, and any that begin with "K", like Kolar or Krieghoff, LOL

If you find a Blazer or a K gun for under $2K it was probably run over by a truck. What I intended to say is that the cheapest, good O/U's are Browning a Beretta base models.

Asaltweapon · Jan 5, 2016

Buy used.

bigblue · Jan 5, 2016

Spend a little more for a used Citori or get a semi. Browning's Maxus is gas operated semi and one of the best. Benelli & Beretta are inertial operated semi's and have slightly more recoil but don't need to be cleaned as often. All great guns.

If your budget is $1k by used or save the extra to buy one of these new.

I recently picked up a Mossberg 930 and have been impressed but with only 1-200 rounds through, it is still early.

Caveman · Jan 5, 2016

+1 on a Browning. I learned on a Citori 20+ years ago. Love that rig.

mike01824 · Jan 5, 2016

Semi related: Anyone estimate a good price for a used Browning BT99 12GA 34" Barrel, nonadjustable comb?

rep308 · Jan 5, 2016

mike01824 said:
Semi related: Anyone estimate a good price for a used Browning BT99 12GA 34" Barrel, nonadjustable comb?

adjustable or fixed chokes? A new one with adjustable chokes cost $1200, I bought a "like new" one last year with box for $900. Damn good American Trap Singles gun

boiler_eng · Jan 5, 2016

mike01824 said:
Semi related: Anyone estimate a good price for a used Browning BT99 12GA 34" Barrel, nonadjustable comb?

Well I think one sold in the classifieds that was 32" and adjustable comb, for $800

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...SE-DELETE-Browning-BT99-12-gauge-Trap-Shotgun

New they list at 1200 and 1400 from Cabelas (for a random ratio)

so 12/14 * 800 = ~ 688

Or just "its worth what someone is willing to pay"

When I was looking for a trap gun last year I would have paid $800 for it probably if it had adjustable chokes.

Sprocket · Jan 5, 2016

My first thought is the CZ - the next is sort of a needle in a hay stack, Marlin 90.

Browning = never regret

Asaltweapon · Jan 5, 2016

mike01824 said:
Semi related: Anyone estimate a good price for a used Browning BT99 12GA 34" Barrel, nonadjustable comb?

I saw it as well. Thought about it but want to change chokes and that cost put it over what I felt it was worth "to me".

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mike01824 said:
Semi related: Anyone estimate a good price for a used Browning BT99 12GA 34" Barrel, nonadjustable comb?

I saw it as well. Thought about it but want to change chokes and that the cost of threading put it over what I felt it was worth "to me".

familyman15 · Jan 5, 2016

Have an older 1100 if interested

icyclefar · Jan 5, 2016

I've got a like new Citori Crossover Target if you're interested in blowing the budget.

boiler_eng · Jan 5, 2016

icyclefar said:
I've got a like new Citori Crossover Target if you're interested in blowing the budget.

Thats what I did. I was cruising along saying oh I won't get anything more than 1000 then 1200 then I saw the crossover target and gave the man all my cash plus more on the CC. I really like the crossover target, its a good gun.

Asaltweapon · Jan 5, 2016

icyclefar said:
I've got a like new Citori Crossover Target if you're interested in blowing the budget.

I shouldn't do this after spending over $2000.00 in the last month just on gun stuff...... I can't help myself. [thinking]

How much?

icyclefar · Jan 5, 2016

Asaltweapon said:
I shouldn't do this after spending over $2000.00 in the last month just on gun stuff...... I can't help myself.

How much?

Sent you a PM

boiler_eng · Jan 5, 2016

Asaltweapon said:
I shouldn't do this after spending over $2000.00 in the last month just on gun stuff...... I can't help myself.

How much?

Just go for it, its worth it. Its a nice gun.

sweed · Jan 5, 2016

RG00924 said:
Thinking of purchasing an O/U in 12 gauge.
Anyone have any experience with Cz (Huglu) shotguns.
Any recommendations for shotguns under $1000
28-30" barrel. For shooting clays

I bought the CZ (Huglu) Mallard for shooting trap. Only shot it during the orientation at my range last summer once (too freakin busy), but shot just as good if not better than some of the guys with more expensive guns. This was my first time ever shooting trap. Bought for well under $1000, I think $550 at Al's in derry.

Rockrivr1 · Jan 5, 2016

Not many will agree with me here, but I've shot very well with my Mossberg Silver Reserve II over/under. Well under $1000, chrome lined bbls and lugs, etc. I added a few things like a fiber optic front sight and different chokes for short money and I have no complaints. The original M SRs had firing pin issues which gave it a very bad reputation. Mossberg did much better with the SR IIs.

familyman15 · Jan 5, 2016

If you are deadset on under 1000 either a really good deal on a citori, or a stevens 555
I will agree with the mossberg silver reserve if you find a newer one

johnnymac101 · Jan 5, 2016

I've been saving for a Citori XT, another month of eating Ramen noodles and it's mine!

bmac10 · Jan 5, 2016

I shoot skeet with a $300 Stoeger o/u. Goes bang every time, pellets go where I point. It's basically two tubes with a stock & trigger. Turkish guns are a bargain and very well made.

rep308 · Jan 5, 2016

Rockrivr1 said:
Not many will agree with me here, but I've shot very well with my Mossberg Silver Reserve II over/under. Well under $1000, chrome lined bbls and lugs, etc. I added a few things like a fiber optic front sight and different chokes for short money and I have no complaints. The original M SRs had firing pin issues which gave it a very bad reputation. Mossberg did much better with the SR IIs.

As a youth shotgun coach, I've tested 4 Mossburg Silver Reserve II's for barrel regulation by both upper and lower barrels at a target 16 yards away through a full choke. 3 of the 4 had barrels that had different points of impact, one time by 4"! The one that passed the test is still going strong after 3 seasons. Their QC or standards are not very good in my experience.

icyclefar · Jan 5, 2016

The biggest problem with sub $1000 O/U's is usually longevity.

In all likelihood, you will destroy the gun after 10 - 15 thousand rounds.

For me, that would equate to about 6-8 months shooting.

I have a Browning XS Skeet with almost 250k rounds through it and it's showing almost no signs of wear.

Besides, if you're in it for the long haul, the value of the ammo you shoot will far overshadow paying $2000 - $3000 for a quality over under.

bigblue · Jan 5, 2016

rep308 said:
As a youth shotgun coach, I've tested 4 Mossburg Silver Reserve II's for barrel regulation by both upper and lower barrels at a target 16 yards away through a full choke. 3 of the 4 had barrels that had different points of impact, one time by 4"! The one that passed the test is still going strong after 3 seasons. Their QC or standards are not very good in my experience.

Sooo.... Your POA-POI varied by a maximum of 4", one time, with a shotgun, at almost 40'? And ... seriously? I'm missing something.

icyclefar said:
The biggest problem with sub $1000 O/U's is usually longevity.

In all likelihood, you will destroy the gun after 10 - 15 thousand rounds.

For me, that would equate to about 6-8 months shooting.

I have a Browning XS Skeet with almost 250k rounds through it and it's showing almost no signs of wear.

Besides, if you're in it for the long haul, the value of the ammo you shoot will far overshadow paying $2000 - $3000 for a quality over under.

This is a more accurate and legitimate criticism and one that I agree with.

icyclefar · Jan 5, 2016

bigblue said:
Sooo.... Your POA-POI varied by a maximum of 4", one time, with a shotgun, at almost 40'? And ... seriously? I'm missing something.

This is a more accurate and legitimate criticism and one that I agree with.

It means a lot if you're trying to break 100 in a row [smile]

12 gauge O/U

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