Why is Scott Brown rated "A" on gun rights?

[Admin]

No, we can still make the interest payments.

What's $500,000,000 a day amongst friends?

 

[pdm]

What's $500,000,000 a day amongst friends?

It's not like it's their money they're ponying up, amirite?

 

[FreeWillie]

If the Mass Independent machine was smart, it's quickly find and groom a candidate that's closer to the Center than Brown (Kennedy?) as his opponent for the next election if Scott goes the Business as usual route.

You are a wise man , Sir!

 

[maee]

You guys forget that there is a big difference between politicians who are honest on gun control, and those who what to use it as a vehicle to ban all guns. Most democrats fall into the later category. Brown probably simply feels that it would make sense if I can call up the NICS when I do a FTF transfer, just like a dealer can. As for the license, it doesn't mean he believes in arbitrary denial of rights based on a suitability clause.

 

[jasons]

I'm against required trigger locks too but I bet 60-70% of Brown's constituents think they're a great idea. Should we fault Scott Brown for (gasp) listening to his constituents? Maybe it would be a more constructive use of our time to work on educating the largely clueless but usually well meaning non-gun-owning constituents (aka "The People") rather than trashing a guy who hasn't even been seated yet.

Or we could bitch and moan. Nothing ever changes, nothing ever gets better, MA sucks, etc, etc, etc. Right?

 

[massamerican]

I'm really concerned that he's chumming with McCain who is a war hero on one hand and a filthy commie on the other hand. Washington is a tough town and he needs to loose McCain ASAP! I'm optimistic about Scott Brown but Washington could eat him alive if he doesn't hold his own.

 

[Dr. CCW]

Really very tough crowd here. This thread is amazing in its negativity.

+1. He'll hone his gun rights stance in Washington as he gets educated. I don't see him moving to the left on this issue. He's not the one we need to worry about, its Coakley. Replace her with any Republican and we may be able to do away with that stupid list of banned handguns among other things.

 

[Len-2A Training]

With the alternative being some kid getting shot or shooting another kid, which would give the anti's even more fodder, why is this a bad idea? If nothing else, supplying a lock makes the parent more personally responsible for an accident and taking the heat off the gun manufacturer.

You probably don't realize it, but you are arguing with the Father of 3 young boys!! I think that I know Derek well enough to say that he has GUN-PROOFED HIS CHILDREN by use of EDUCATION . . . it works a hell of a lot better than relying on child-proofing the guns! But this requires "parental responsibility" which is largely frowned upon in MA and the socialist society now prevalent in what used to be the USA.

False dilemma. Millions of guns are sold without any lock. There aren't millions of kids being killed by guns.

I agree that we ought to try to minimize unnecessary child deaths as much as possible. But I don't believe the solution to that problem is by requiring dealers to sell locks with handguns.

Bingo! Education is the key, not bandaids on guns.

+2

How can a gun without a trigger lock kill someone? Supplying the lock make the parent LESS personally responsible. If the only thing keeping your child from grabbing one of your guns and shooting someone is a trigger lock, well the trigger lock is the least of your concerns.

Indeed! Derek proves my point above, thanks buddy.

 

[PaulD]

Scott's A+ rating came from his 100% grade on his candidate questionnaire, and his voting record.

I invite all of you to print it out and take it as well, see how you do.

http://goal.org/Documents/Candidate%20Questionnaire.pdf

So can we see how Brown filled that out?

 

[drgrant]

Wait wait wait....


How is requiring manufacturers to provide a child saftey lock make you rage?

Because it makes me pay for something I will never, ever use. The costs of these stupid locks are passed onto the consumer. Over the years I've probably "paid" for at least $100 worth of
locks that I will never use.

I'd gladly pay the extra $10 dollars

You already are in the case of handguns. The lawful commerce in arms protection act, or whatever it was called, had this provision in it... basically all new handguns in the US must come with a trigger lock or similar device. So the whole point here is somewhat moot anyways.

Axsuming the cost was really $10, I'd rather have that extra half box of ammo.

...so one idiot that normally wouldn't store his gun properly thinks twice (hell, maybe even save his childs life). Grasping at straws a bit hard for my tastes.

So you're telling me that the same idiot dumb enough to leave a loaded gun around unattended with untrained children is going to be smart enough to use a lock and not just ignore it? I'd say that's a bit of a stretch.

-Mike

 

[SecondAmdFirst]

The NRA needs to "take him under their wing"

 

[kevin9]

But D, at least with the lock you can throw it at the burglar after running out of ammo.

Assuming one can get it off the gun in the first place, otherwise just chuck the whole thing at the poor misguided soul attempting to redistribute some of your wealth.

To the OP: crawl, walk, run.

 

[Titan]

It's important to understand what Scott Brown is and what he isn't, but the most important thing to remember is that he ISN'T Ted Kennedy.

Coakley beat out other Dems all attempting to vie for who was the most perfect clone of Ted Kennedy.

Scott Brown is a far superior candidate to any of those folks and will vote much more often with Conservatives than with Democrats.

It's also important that we'll have a REPRESENTATIVE in Congress who may actually read and be influenced by our correspondence with him on critical issues. Think how refreshing it will be to at least have a CHANCE of influencing how he'll vote on a key issue.

 

[jasons]

It's important to understand what Scott Brown is and what he isn't, but the most important thing to remember is that he ISN'T Ted Kennedy.

This. Seriously - we went from Ted Kennedy to Scott Brown and people are complaining that he's not Charleston Heston. I'm not exactly Mr. Happiness&Rainbows and even I see the positive side here.

There was a saying in the Marines about enlisted guys: "If they're not bitching, something's wrong." I guess we're alright.

 

[Radio]

Let me paste some highlights of Scott Brown's speech after his win and also a commentary regarding Leftists reverse accusations.



Scott Brown:

Thank you very much. I'll bet they can hear all this cheering down in Washington, D.C.
And I hope they're paying close attention, because tonight the independent voice of Massachusetts has spoken.
(snip)
Most of all, I will remember that while the honor is mine, this Senate seat belongs to no one person and no political party - and as I have said before, and you said loud and clear today, it is the people's seat.
(snip)
When I first started running, I asked for a lot of help, because I knew it was going to be me against the machine. I was wrong, it was all of us against the machine. And after tonight we have shown everyone that - now - you are the machine.
(snip)
It all started with me, my truck, and a few dedicated volunteers. It ended with Air Force One making an emergency run to Logan. I didn't mind when President Obama came here and criticized me - that happens in campaigns. But when he criticized my truck, that's where I draw the line.

We had the machine scared and scrambling, and for them it is just the beginning of an election year filled with surprises. They will be challenged again and again across this country. When there's trouble in Massachusetts, there's trouble everywhere - and now they know it.
(snip)

It was simply shared conviction that brought us all together.

One thing is clear, voters do not want the trillion-dollar health care bill that is being forced on the American people.

This bill is not being debated openly and fairly. It will raise taxes, hurt Medicare, destroy jobs, and run our nation deeper into debt. It is not in the interest of our state or country - we can do better.

When in Washington, I will work in the Senate with Democrats and Republicans to reform health care in an open and honest way. No more closed-door meetings or back room deals by an out of touch party leadership. No more hiding costs, concealing taxes, collaborating with special interests, and leaving more trillions in debt for our children to pay.
(snip)
as President John F. Kennedy taught us, that starts with an across the board tax cut for individuals and businesses that will create jobs and stimulate the economy. It's that simple!
(snip)
And let me say this, with respect to those who wish to harm us, I believe that our Constitution and laws exist to protect this nation - they do not grant rights and privileges to enemies in wartime. In dealing with terrorists, our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them, not lawyers to defend them.
Raising taxes, taking over our health care, and giving new rights to terrorists is the wrong agenda for our country.
(snip)
Fellow citizens, what happened in this election can happen all over America. We are witnesses, you and I, to the truth that ideals, hard work, and strength of heart can overcome any political machine. We ran a campaign never to be forgotten, and led a cause that deserved and received all that we could give it.

Now the link to the commentary:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/the_lefts_rhetoric_of_accusati.html

If people think that this MA win by Scott Brown is a win for Republicans; boy are they mistaken, because those that are part of the 'machine' in the Republican Party are also crapping their pants at what just occurred...this is just one of the fundamental changes occurring in America today. We are seeing the emergence of people that are being elected to 'govern' as true statesmen. People that will honour the Founders and the Founding Principles. The corruption in DC is being taken to task, and that's a good thing for everyone; including the rest of the world.

Enemies of the U.S.A are, at this point; full of fear and dread, because they know what's coming. Nations that have conspired against us are crapping their pants; the U.N. have been disgraced in Haiti; the Saudis are nowhere to be found and the rest of the world have given very little in terms of money or support. All except that tiny middle-eastern democracy, Israel; who have been, and still are operating a well-equipped hospital (the only one), in the middle of a football field. They are not afraid and they have not pulled out because of "security concerns" like the cowardly U.N. effort.

 

[Dr. CCW]

It's important to understand what Scott Brown is and what he isn't, but the most important thing to remember is that he ISN'T Ted Kennedy.

Coakley beat out other Dems all attempting to vie for who was the most perfect clone of Ted Kennedy.

Scott Brown is a far superior candidate to any of those folks and will vote much more often with Conservatives than with Democrats.

It's also important that we'll have a REPRESENTATIVE in Congress who may actually read and be influenced by our correspondence with him on critical issues. Think how refreshing it will be to at least have a CHANCE of influencing how he'll vote on a key issue.

You also need to understand that he was born and raised in MA. I applaud him and his parents for holding onto their conservative values after a lifetime of being brainwashed and bombarded by the liberal anti-gun media here. I think getting out of MA and being exposed to reality will allow Scott some clarity on gun issues.

 

[Viking Kitten]

Well it shouldn't matter what he believes in. . .

his entire platform was that "it's the People's Seat" when it comes time to vote on bills, make sure that WE, THE PEOPLE contact him and tell him how we want him to vote. If he doesn't, vote him out!

Well stated - I absolutely agree with you. Coakley's defeat was the first real sign in a [too long overdue] time that "the people" are tired of elected officials who do not represent their constituency. We need to remind Brown and everyone else that they serve at our discretion.

 

[vellnueve]

You all need to chill out. Brown is about as conservative a Senator as you're going to get. Changing the political attitudes in MA is something that could take generations, and the pent up anger at health care reform, while strong, would still not have been enough to get anyone more conservative into this seat. The Dems hold on the MA Senate seats for the last 35+ years has been broken, we need to take it one step at a time.

The gun control issue at the national level is absolutely dead for at least until the next presidential election.

And I think Brown is well aware that he represents his constituents and I am absolutely convinced that he will listen when the constituents have concerns.

 

[Len-2A Training]

I've heard lots about Scott Brown before fat Ted kicked the bucket. ALL of it was good, especially wrt him being a "real person".

I met him very briefly at the GOAL Annual Holiday Party last month.

My impressions of Scott are that "he's the real deal" and that he'll indeed listen and respond to our concerns. Understand that that does NOT mean that he'll always agree with any of us on a particular issue, but if he shows respect for his constituents and gives consideration to our concerns, that is a couple of magnitudes better than what we have today in the legislature in DC. "Our" Reps and Sens have been doing what they want (or whatever their huge campaign supporters tell them to do) for so many years . . . and they respond with form letters that usually are diametrically opposed to our beliefs making it obvious that nobody bothered to read what we wrote to them.

 

[DJMc]

Mark, Baby steps, the person you describe, a true conservative will be very difficult to get elected at this time.

When in an election, the choice is normally first a choice only between two candidates. Brown and Coakely were close enough that it really was only a choice between the two.

When your vote is unlikely to sway the matter, then consider other options. If Scott Brown had been a sure winner or loser, or thought to be so, then maybe a vote for Joe Kennedy would have made a statement. Push within primaries to get candidates more to your liking. Write to Joe Kennedy and tell him to run again against Kerry, send him money to help. Primaries push candidates more to the core of their parties. General elections are when the candidates try to appear more mainstream.

Brown is a victory and a real one both over Coakely and historically.

 

[vellnueve]

This vote in and of itself was more of a statement than any vote for Joe Kennedy would have been.

 

[theGringo]

The best thing about the election of Scott Brown is that it sent shockwaves across the national political landscape, and in doing so derailed Obamacare and maybe cap-and-trade, too. For now. We needed that. Let no Republican forget that Brown was elected by indie voters and a few disaffected Democrats. Oh, and a few moonbats were left utterly demoralized, and that's a plus.

Brown is a pretty moderate Republican. We all knew he supported Romneycare. This IS still Massachusetts. Why do I detect some surprise here?

Let's not all go getting buyer's remorse because this guy is not Reagan. He's not even sworn in, yet. Imagine what the mood would be if Coakley won it.

Other Republicans are coming out of the woodwork now, and the broader electorate are not so reluctant to change their previous voting patterns. This is a time for us to be talking to Brown, and watching for signs of change as we come into the Novemeber elections.

I haven't hucked my machetes into Otis Reservoir just yet, but I'm willing to give Brown a chance. And I'm looking for hopeful indications that other shoes will drop.

C'mon, guys ...

 

[Emoto]

I agree that Brown is a HUGE step in the right direction. Can you imagine any of the other candidates showing up for a GOAL holiday party? GMAFB!

 

[buketduder]

The gun control issue at the national level is absolutely dead for at least until the next presidential election.

I agree..Most laws, gun laws an otherwise, that will affect you will be made at the state level. Is there now a special election to replace brown? I hope a freedom lover replaces him.

 

[SecondAmdFirst]

Some things I heard are concerning, but I am willing to wait and give the man a chance. One noteworthy thing is that Scott Brown seems to be willing to listen to the voters. If things are not going in a good direction, we should collectively address the issue as a group.

 

[Scrivener]

IMost laws, gun laws an otherwise, that will affect you will be made at the state level. Is there now a special election to replace brown? I hope a freedom lover replaces him.

Of course there will be a special election to fill his state senate seat. Followed by a special election to fill the seat of the state rep elected to that seat, in all likelihood.

Look for Richard Ross, who supported Brown's campaign, to run. The bad news is he will probably face another good rep from Attleboro to do so.

 

[vellnueve]

I also wonder how up to date the info posted in the OP is. The questionnaire is from 2002. NRA and GOAL have both given A or better ratings every year since then.