Westminster R&G closed due to neighbor complaints

[JJ4]

I don't think this is wise. Why bring up the subject if it not an issue? If you do, it might awaken the antis to come out against us. They will usually have the numbers. Bad bad idea. Not very well thought out. Thanks.

Plus, you cannot proactively pass a bylaw to prohibit future bylaws. And even if you could, it could itself be reversed or amended at any future meeting if on the warrant. Bad advice.

Correct.

The time to do this is if your town/city forms a charter commission and re-writes the charter. The Charter as a whole goes to the vote of the whole town, but the details are usually written up by a charter committee/commission. Get yourself ON that damn committee. A town/city charter is like a constitution - much harder to change or override because changes need to go to the polls. For example, Framingham just voted to become a city by voting in a new charter.

 

[MichaelJames1971]

I don't think this is wise. Why bring up the subject if it not an issue? If you do, it might awaken the antis to come out against us. They will usually have the numbers. Bad bad idea. Not very well thought out. Thanks.

Plus, you cannot proactively pass a bylaw to prohibit future bylaws. And even if you could, it could itself be reversed or amended at any future meeting if on the warrant. Bad advice.

The fact that this situation HAPPENED is a wake-up call to everyone - News Flash, the antis already know where the gun-ranges are in MA. If they don't know, they become antis when a fraudulent Real Estate Agent sells them a property within earshot of one. If you think this just 'doesn't happen', you're painfully naïve.

These things happen when clubs practice ZERO community-outreach and just try to be 'invisible' in their neighborhoods. See how that backfired?

There was a post, a ways back, that discusses this massive shortfall in communication - it's probably been buried in the calls to install surveillance cameras. That doesn't deliver the message to the surrounding community that "we're here, we've been here LONG before you, and we're not going anywhere!". It's time to re-engage the local law enforcement, community leaders, the local papers, the Real Estate denizens, etc. It's time to publish some editorials and 'get the word out' from the Club's perspective on why this whole thing was stupid, and ask some open-ended questions about why this might have been a waste of time.....I thought the NRA 'slogan' was STAND AND FIGHT not 'blend-in to your surroundings, and maybe they'll leave you alone...."

 

[Waher]

Gun clubs should be like country clubs in that real estate brokers mention their proximity to potential home buyers AS AN AMENITY. Either you want to live near a gun club or a golf course or you don't because of the nature of living in proximity to those facilities (pesticides/traffic/noise/grass pollen/geese/etc.)

 

[HARRYM]

I don't think this is wise. Why bring up the subject if it not an issue? If you do, it might awaken the antis to come out against us. They will usually have the numbers. Bad bad idea. Not very well thought out. Thanks.

Plus, you cannot proactively pass a bylaw to prohibit future bylaws. And even if you could, it could itself be reversed or amended at any future meeting if on the warrant. Bad advice.

Pssstttttttt......The Antis have already been out to get us for quite awhile. We live in MA and live under the will of the Antis daily. And by the way the Constitution is such a law that's supposed to protect us from future laws so the concept isn't new.

No, MA gun owners must step up, not the ones that already do, the ones who haven't "found" the time to do so. The time for turning the other cheek must end. Its time for us all to unite and make a stand.

And don't worry about the Antis, they already hate each and every one of us.

 

[drgrant]

The fact that this situation HAPPENED is a wake-up call to everyone - News Flash, the antis already know where the gun-ranges are in MA. If they don't know, they become antis when a fraudulent Real Estate Agent sells them a property within earshot of one. If you think this just 'doesn't happen', you're painfully naïve.

These things happen when clubs practice ZERO community-outreach and just try to be 'invisible' in their neighborhoods. See how that backfired?

There was a post, a ways back, that discusses this massive shortfall in communication - it's probably been buried in the calls to install surveillance cameras. That doesn't deliver the message to the surrounding community that "we're here, we've been here LONG before you, and we're not going anywhere!". It's time to re-engage the local law enforcement, community leaders, the local papers, the Real Estate denizens, etc. It's time to publish some editorials and 'get the word out' from the Club's perspective on why this whole thing was stupid, and ask some open-ended questions about why this might have been a waste of time.....I thought the NRA 'slogan' was STAND AND FIGHT not 'blend-in to your surroundings, and maybe they'll leave you alone...."

Dude this doesn't have anything to do with "community engagement.". This whole thing happened because some real estate shyster douchebag tried to abuse the system for his own benefit.

 

[Coyote33]

Dude this doesn't have anything to do with "community engagement.". This whole thing happened because some real estate shyster douchebag tried to abuse the system for his own benefit.

Maybe true, but his point is valid, even if a bit of a non-sequitur.