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See the 33,201 posts on this. Jack.Len, what about duel citizenship? If a person has a place in VT as well as another state and lives in VT for a amount of time. Can’t one claim citizenship in both states?
Len, what about duel citizenship? If a person has a place in VT as well as another state and lives in VT for a amount of time. Can’t one claim citizenship in both states?
Yes, I should of stated resident. I have owned a 2nd home in Vermont for years and spend a considerable amount of time there each year, hence the question.You mean residency, not citizenship. The OP is presumably a citizen of the USA but a resident of CT.
Yes residency is what I should have stated. I’ve been on the ATF site as well. I guess I’ll just have to search out a dealer that understands the law.Well "dueling" requires two people with guns! [Sorry, couldn't resist. I had a good English teacher in school.]
It's not citizenship, it is residency (you can be a legal resident without being a US Citizen and still own/buy guns). And yes one can legally claim 2 or more states as a resident under Federal Law. Proving that to a local dealer is an entirely different and frequently futile issue. Read the instructions on the BATFE 4473 form as it lays out what documentation is acceptable to the Feds and how to answer the questions. Some dealers may work with you while others won't no matter what. Good luck.
No idea where you are in VT, but I'd suggest the following shops might work with you:Yes residency is what I should have stated. I’ve been on the ATF site as well. I guess I’ll just have to search out a dealer that understands the law.
NEK about 14 miles from the boarderNo idea where you are in VT, but I'd suggest the following shops might work with you:
- Lonely Mountain Arms in Starksboro, Lonely Mountain Arms is owned by our own Dwarven1 (Ross), a good friend of mine.
- Parro's in Waterbury, http://www.parros.com/
Talk with them, you have nothing to lose.
What is NEK? Do you mean the Canadian border or NH, NY or MA borders?NEK about 14 miles from the boarder
I wonder if a NH utility bill and a C&R FFL with NH addresses would fly with some of the more reluctant NH dealers? I'll also have my NH Resident P/R License the next time I'm up there on a weekday as well.I have a seasonal rental in a Vermont. One FFL only needs a utility bill in my name for a Vermont address. Another one wants to see a government ID with a Vermont address. Your results may vary.
Me, too; but I never let it hold me back.I had a good English teacher in school.
What is NEK? Do you mean the Canadian border or NH, NY or MA borders?
I have seen several shops now making sure that the government issued ID that you provide when you buy a gun has a matching address to what you provide on the 4473. And the NICS check asks what type and state of issuance of ID is provided. Looks like the government is trying to make the dual residency harder to utilize.
You mean residency, not citizenship. The OP is presumably a citizen of the USA but a resident of CT.
It's not citizenship, it is residency
“14th Amendment" said:SEC. I. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Quasi necro thread revival- Some have attempted to obtain an VT non-driver's ID. Has anyone successfully done this? In reading the VT.gov website on this, it states one must surrender any out of state licenses upon receiving the VT ID.
This.That is a Fed requirement, not up to the state. You only get to keep one ID.
I don't believe this to be true Len...That is a Fed requirement, not up to the state. You only get to keep one ID.
Same here. Mass resident with MA drivers license. I already had my NY permit but for the on line renewal I had to get the NY non drivers ID.I don't believe this to be true Len...
I have a MA drivers Lic (with MA address) and a NY RMV issued state ID (with NY address).
The NY ID was required by the Sheriff's Dept. (the issuing authority) for my wife and I to get our NY pistol permits.
A search for this led to a Fed law that does indeed allow for this providing the state allows it. So you are correct. I wasn't aware that any state allowed this, I'd only heard of states that disallowed the 2 IDs.I don't believe this to be true Len...
I have a MA drivers Lic (with MA address) and a NY RMV issued state ID (with NY address).
The NY ID was required by the Sheriff's Dept. (the issuing authority) for my wife and I to get our NY pistol permits.
My impression of this requirement was that NY is trying to get pistol permit holders in as many data bases as they can so they can track them more easily.Same here. Mass resident with MA drivers license. I already had my NY permit but for the on line renewal I had to get the NY non drivers ID.
The rest of this was explained to me by the NY DMV When I went to get a non drivers ID. There was no problem getting a non drivers ID With a MA drivers license. BUT since I once had a parking ticket in NY (overtime at a parking meter in 1993), my old NY Drivers license number in NY is NEVER obsoleted in the NY state system. But I couldn’t have both a drivers license number and a non drivers license number In the NY system. The solution they came up with is I have a non drivers ID with my old valid drivers license number on it. They suggested I not use it outside of NY. Luckily it didn’t screw up my MA drivers license renewal