allen-1
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This is in the General Discussion forum, (not Mass only), in some states you ARE legally required to inform police officers that you're carrying a firearm.
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This is in the General Discussion forum, (not Mass only), in some states you ARE legally required to inform police officers that you're carrying a firearm.
Ok, you folks will like this...
A few few years ago, I was coming home from work with a coworker, and was merging onto Rte 3N in MA, from 495. My car has a Stromberg performance exhaust, which is louder that normal, but not outrageously loud (unless you floor it, which I don't do during normal driving).
In any case I was merging into traffic, accelerating moderately from 30-50 mph (heavy traffic), right by where those tall noise barrier walls are (read amplifiers). A trouper was traveling on 3N and was a few car lengths behind me. He flashed his blues and pulled me over.
I waited till the end of the merge and pulled over. I figured I'd be polite and turned off my engine (had no clue as to why I was pulled over), put my hands on the wheel. He came up on the driver's side and asked for license and registration.
When he returned, he asked me to press the gas pedal. Somewhat confused as to the request, and even more so because my car was off. I pressed the gas, as he said, and asked no questions. I was pretty loud with all the cars going by. He asked me to do it again while he leaned towards my engine area to listen. At that point, it started to dawn on me, that he must have thought the car was too loud.
He handed back my license and registration, and walked back to his cruiser. Never stated why he pulled me over. Nevertheless, I started up my car and drove off...
Thought you'd enjoy the humor of it all...
A few few years ago, I was coming home from work with a coworker, and was merging onto Rte 3N in MA, from 495. My car has a Stromberg performance exhaust, which is louder that normal, but not outrageously loud (unless you floor it, which I don't do during normal driving).
In any case I was merging into traffic, accelerating moderately from 30-50 mph (heavy traffic), right by where those tall noise barrier walls are (read amplifiers). A trouper was traveling on 3N and was a few car lengths behind me. He flashed his blues and pulled me over.
I waited till the end of the merge and pulled over. I figured I'd be polite and turned off my engine (had no clue as to why I was pulled over), put my hands on the wheel. He came up on the driver's side and asked for license and registration.
When he returned, he asked me to press the gas pedal. Somewhat confused as to the request, and even more so because my car was off. I pressed the gas, as he said, and asked no questions. I was pretty loud with all the cars going by. He asked me to do it again while he leaned towards my engine area to listen. At that point, it started to dawn on me, that he must have thought the car was too loud.
He handed back my license and registration, and walked back to his cruiser. Never stated why he pulled me over. Nevertheless, I started up my car and drove off...
Thought you'd enjoy the humor of it all...
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Is the patdown still allowed if you TELL the LEO you ARE legally armed?
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Fair enough. I made the assumption it was in MA.
Living in NH but travel frequently to MA we make sure we do a thorough check when we get in the car to head south. Make sure we remove the arm rest pistol, her ccw from her purse and any loose spent brass in the truck bed. I do, however, keep an extra killy looking AR 15 water gun on the floor of the back seat. I keep hoping to get the opportunity to refuse the illegal search to see what happens when he proceeds anyway. ![[grin]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/041.gif "Grin [grin]")
Until you get tazzed and a German Shepherd is munching on your arm.
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The time I spent in Europe last April did not show any LE that looked anything like that. Not even close.Pat downs in Europe must be much more fun...
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"I respectfully exercise my right to remain silent and do not consent to searches. I will obey your orders, but please do not confuse that with consent to a search as it is not. What do you want me to do now?".
Best face the dash cam and articulate this slowly and clearly.
if the cop starts off like a dick head and you know you're getting a ticket, it might be the best route to go and ask for a supervisor if he keeps on his track of warrantless searches. I got my dashcam mounted to my mirror. Still need to mount the rear cam because it requires its own power source. I believe in CT there there is no expectation of privacy in a public contact with police. I will keep it rolling. Only need to wire up a constant source with a manual switch and not use the CIG lighter because it key off.
I used to be all "Am I being detained" shit when I lived behind the Iron Curtain. I've changed my opinion on police quite a bit, and I think it has to do with the cops out here not having to enforce laws that are totally egregious like they are in Massachusetts. We've got Constitutional Carry and most cops I interact with are country boys that are all about the 2A.
These stories remind me of my recent Michigan trip - as I was about to head out the door, I felt something in my shirt pocket... turned out to be a .22LR round that I stuck in my pocket at the range at some point. Quite unnerving to think that it could've landed me in jail if I hadn't found it and left it at home (in its original container, locked up, obviously ![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
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These stories remind me of my recent Michigan trip - as I was about to head out the door, I felt something in my shirt pocket... turned out to be a .22LR round that I stuck in my pocket at the range at some point. Quite unnerving to think that it could've landed me in jail if I hadn't found it and left it at home (in its original container, locked up, obviously
Go to Israel - IDF chicks are smokin' hawt
I am in MI right now. Born here and visiting family. NH resident now.
Checked two firearms on my trip. The concern is always there that I will have a round on me..
Back on topic.. Reading this thread makes me want a blue gun when I travel in MA. Not armed officer. I carry this so my pants
fit right.
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FrugalFannie
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smelling pot is NOT a reasonable excuse in MA since small amounts of pot are not criminal.
To the OP, my standard offer. I can look into this very discreetly if youd like. I can find out if this is one of the freshly minted troopers that just got his license to solo, or hes an old timer. I can also find out if your buddy embellished his tale just a little bit for flourish.
This is something I enjoy doing; either exposing an ******* cop, or an ******* friend, so if your buddy says hed rather not, feel free to pass that along. If hes concerned that my discreet interroggative may blackball him, I assure you, it wont.
This is something I enjoy doing; either exposing an ******* cop, or an ******* friend, so if your buddy says hed rather not, feel free to pass that along. If hes concerned that my discreet interroggative may blackball him, I assure you, it wont.
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The MA SJC has explicitly ruled such in Commonwealth v. Overmyer
The court also held that:
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"It has been articulated" could mean anything from a binding court decision to someone simply arguing a point. Is there any case law beyond the SJC decision on this issue?
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It's probably by getting a name/address/DOB match. Even just name and DOB would be enough in most cases.
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ok, so it is legit. thanks for confirming. I've never seen a LEO do it to my car or anyone elses, though.
Ever get a PIN over the phone from CJIS? They usually use your MA DL to confirm your identity. So it's pretty obvious their systems are joined at the hip somehow. Probably has something to do with CJIS housing criminal records as well as LTC data. Yeah it gives me warm fuzzies that we're basically another table next to diddlers, etc.
Last time I was pulled over it never came up. It was perfect behavior on the LEO's part.
Framingham cop got me for 35 in a 25. He had to have seen the GOAL and Comm2a stickers on the back, had to have seen my LTC when I was pulling out my license. He gave me a written warning and the subject simply never came up.
Framingham cop got me for 35 in a 25. He had to have seen the GOAL and Comm2a stickers on the back, had to have seen my LTC when I was pulling out my license. He gave me a written warning and the subject simply never came up.
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"bait and switch"
I got stopped by MSP in a station wagon going 81 in a 55 about 10 years ago coming back from a match. Had two Garands and couple hundred rounds. Gave him my licenses told him they were there: you could see the soft cases through the anyway.
No ticket, on my way in five minutes. YMMV. We have a hatchback, wagon and minivan so no locked trunk is available.
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