Until things change? How do you figure things are going to change? By magic?
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Until things change? How do you figure things are going to change? By magic?
and this is the point exactly. A member on another site got caught up in the NYC nonsense, but keep his cool with the cops, went to his hearing and it was dismissed, no charges, no record.
Does it suck to lose a day on this BS ? Absolutely, but until things change work the system or the system will work you.
The thing is, not everybody goes into court and gets things dismissed. If you break down stuff like this by income or race, you'll often find that the "justice system" has a lot of systemic bias where two people can get arrested for the same thing, one walks and the other ends up serving time.
This is definitely an argument. However, GIVEN that the "justice system" is unfair to minorities- if that is the argument you want to make and GIVEN that minorities who run/fight with the Cops have recently met VERY untimely deaths, isn't it all the more reason to NOT run from police because of your prohibited knife? (if that is even why he ran). I mean, the Cops WERE NOT EVEN THERE TO DETAIN HIM.
Given recent events, if I was a minority and was being stopped for having an illegal knife (again, this is not even what happened), I would not resist because I do not want to be shot in the back 8 times, choked out, or have my spinal cord severed.
The fact that this guy has been caught at least 20 times breaking laws prior to this is mind boggling- someone who has been caught repeatedly thinks "maybe on the 23rd time as a black male being arrested in a city known for police brutality, I will be able to escape the cops."
You don't have any data on how frequently people are able to get away. It could be a good decision.
Are you seriously blaming the victim here? What crime is running when there are cops around indicative of that they would even detain him? If I'm out jogging and a cruiser is driving by, should I stop and #handsupdontshoot ?Everybody is hung up on this knife thing when the bigger problem- the problem that led to this individual's death was the fact that he ran from the police unprovoked. When you run from the police, they have RS to detain you (you would think Mr. Gray would know how these things work based on his 20+ criminal court cases/arrests prior to this incident) and you are probably going to go down hard WHEN (not if) the police catch up and apprehend you.
Are you seriously blaming the victim here? What crime is running when there are cops around indicative of that they would even detain him? If I'm out jogging and a cruiser is driving by, should I stop and #handsupdontshoot ?
Are you seriously blaming the victim here? What crime is running when there are cops around indicative of that they would even detain him? If I'm out jogging and a cruiser is driving by, should I stop and #handsupdontshoot ?
It is called Reasonable Suspician. Look it up. I am sure Mr. Gray was out jogging and profiled for being a black man in Baltimore. My mistake- as you were.
Are you seriously blaming the victim here? What crime is running when there are cops around indicative of that they would even detain him? If I'm out jogging and a cruiser is driving by, should I stop and #handsupdontshoot ?
That being the case, did the incident being discussed occur in "a high crime area"?
That being the case, did the incident being discussed occur in "a high crime area"?
It happened it Baltimore.
Dude. Baltimore
Pretty much..LOL!
I suppose you have a point there, but is the whole city that ****ing bad?
LOL!
I suppose you have a point there, but is the whole city that ****ing bad?
Im stationed 30 minutes away...that place is the freaking Wild West.
This is definitely an argument. However, GIVEN that the "justice system" is unfair to minorities- if that is the argument you want to make and GIVEN that minorities who run/fight with the Cops have recently met VERY untimely deaths, isn't it all the more reason to NOT run from police because of your prohibited knife? (if that is even why he ran). I mean, the Cops WERE NOT EVEN THERE TO DETAIN HIM.
Without going back and forth all day without any other information on this case- Police brutality is a serious plague on our nation right now that needs to be addressed.
That said, it seems like poor decision making on Mr. Gray's part to run from the police and resist arrest in the times we live in either because he was carrying an illegal knife, or just because he was out for a jog.
It amazes me that there is such a thing as "knife laws".
the B--52's are all fueled up and ready to go.. next stop baltimore..
Well, as a nation, we'll need to work on not blaming victims before we will see any change.
So because they're at a disadvantage, it's even more their fault?