SIG P210 CARRY just released, MA ETA?

[Tallahassee]

Wow. Another "new gun on the market when will it be available in mass" thread.

Give it time, there will be one asking if they should carry with one in the chamber again.

 

[Rick O'Shea]

I'll wait till after the recall.

 

[nstassel]

One thats not broken like a 9mm 1911 is? Maybe.

Ouch. You should see my 1911 9mm shoot sometime. I'll let you know after I get it fixed.

 

[slap shot]

upgraded 210 carry

 

[paul73]

Give it time, there will be one asking if they should carry with one in the chamber again.

"A significant flaw of the P210 design is that its safety locks only the trigger, leaving the firing pin free to move around."

 

[The5thDentist]

I care if I am carrying for self protection. If god forbid I should actually have to shoot somebody or use deadly force, I want it to be with a MA approved gun that I bought locally.

If you ever have to shoot somebody in MA you are going to have a lot of questions to answer, why make it even worse?

Are you a relatively new gun owner?

I ask because I think most people just starting out with gun ownership in MA hear that opinion. Probably from gun stores that only want to sell Shields and various Rugers.

And that one well known store that had a page titled "Guns You Can't Have in MA" on its site.

Same goes for the idea you can't do a trigger job.

I think most all went through that stage.

The only thing that could land you in hot water is having a post-ban mag over 10 rds. That's it. You can have whatever gun you want and customize it the way you want. As long as you follow the AWB regs.

 

[paul73]

only thing that could land you in hot water is having a post-ban mag over 10 rds.

a silencer with a giggle switch may also be sort of an issue. a friend of mine had one, i still regret for not getting one while i could. a truly fun thing to have, and now just way too much pita to even try to get one, who needs the trouble...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Qy8FSXuwE

 

[The5thDentist]

a silencer with a giggle switch may also be sort of an issue. a friend of mine had one, i still regret for not getting one while i could. a truly fun thing to have, and now just way to much pita to even try to get one, who needs the trouble...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Qy8FSXuwE

I didn't want to overcomplicate things LOL.

 

[Coda]

There is absolutely nothing in MGL that makes handgun compliance an obligation of the consumer, not sure what kind of crack you are smoking.

Not smoking any crack at all and I stand by my statements. Maybe you should talk to someone who actually had to defend themselves in MA and listen to what they went through and what it cost them. You obviously don’t understand the scrutiny that you will be under, and that scrutiny will not only apply to you, but also your gun.

 

[Coda]

This is one of the dumbest things I read on NES in a while, and there has been some dumb shit on here lately.

If I have to pull out my roscoe, that list is the least of my concerns. If I am protecting the wife and kids, I could care less about any questions after the fact. Going to do my job, and what happens after, happens.

And this has to be one of the dumbest things I have heard on NES. If you think your “roscoe” is going to get the job done better than an MA approved gun you must have one hell of a “roscoe”. And to state what “happens after, happens” is rather cavalier and might make you a hero, but a jammed up hero with some major legal expenses.

 

[System6ix]

I care if I am carrying for self protection. If god forbid I should actually have to shoot somebody or use deadly force, I want it to be with a MA approved gun that I bought locally.

I must be doing it wrong then, because the only "MA Approved Firearms Roster" handguns I own are my daughter's Ruger Mark IV Hunter…oh yeah…and a bunch of Glocks

 

[drgrant]

Not smoking any crack at all and I stand by my statements. Maybe you should talk to someone who actually had to defend themselves in MA and listen to what they went through and what it cost them. You obviously don’t understand the scrutiny that you will be under, and that scrutiny will not only apply to you, but also your gun.

Lol i have actually read court transcripts etc, but ok, keep promoting fear porn. Or better yet, enlighten us, as to how a prosecutor is going to magically use that (something that's not illegal) against you.

 

[Broc]

How long before you think it’ll be available at MA dealers (MA Approved List BS)?

If you have to ask this, you dont deserve the gun.

 

[Broc]

I care if I am carrying for self protection. If god forbid I should actually have to shoot somebody or use deadly force, I want it to be with a MA approved gun that I bought locally.

If you ever have to shoot somebody in MA you are going to have a lot of questions to answer, why make it

Grow a f*cking pair. Not being in the roster does not make a gun illegal, for f*cks sake, when will people finally understand this.

There are like 500 threads on this sh*t already.

 

[Broc]

Not smoking any crack at all and I stand by my statements. Maybe you should talk to someone who actually had to defend themselves in MA and listen to what they went through and what it cost them. You obviously don’t understand the scrutiny that you will be under, and that scrutiny will not only apply to you, but also your gun.

Maybe you should talk to someone that was in court for defending himself with a gun that wasn't on the list.

Go search for the case and get back to us.

 

[AHM]

"A significant flaw of the P210 design is that its safety locks only the trigger, leaving the firing pin free to move around."

Just like our Ruger Mk III 22/45 Target.
Well, except for the firing pin return spring.

But I decided to add moar aftermarket safety to the gun.

Tandemkross Firing Pin Rebound Spring, Ruger MK Series, 5 Pack

Check out the deal on Tandemkross Firing Pin Rebound Spring, Ruger MK Series, 5 Pack at MGW

www.midwestgunworks.com

Now it's 5+1==6x as safe as it was before.

Of course, we now get 100% Failure to Fire,
since the firing pin won't move an angstrom
with all those springs jammed in there.

... a giggle switch may also be sort of an issue. a friend of mine had one, i still regret for not getting one while i could....

Sounds to me like it's high time for an NES Road Trip to Chicago.

Sweep the streets; confiscate all the giggle switches.
A cutting-out party for a new age.

(I call shotgun).

Lol i have actually read court transcripts etc, but ok, keep promoting fear porn. Or better yet, enlighten us, as to how a prosecutor is going to magically use that (something that's not illegal) against you.

To be fair, if @Coda ever has to defend himself, when he gets jacked up,
the prosecutor will introduce the evidence of his NES avatar
as proof that he made light of the serious serious business of legal gun ownership.

And (unlike Megan),
Coda's Spokes-Macaw doesn't even have an LTC.
They'll mention that, too.
@one-eyed Jack

You know it's true.
You know that's how they roll.

Meanwhile, you know those Entering <Town> signs in Massachusetts?

The signposts actually all contain a tiny locking compartment where
Ayoob has a cache of the precise carry ammo used by <T>PD,
from the exact same lot that the Chief is carrying.

When he drives from Manchester to Providence,
he stops and changes out his carry ammo at each border,
so that in the gravest extreme,
he can't be accused of shooting boolits killier than the local constabulary.
#ProTip

 

[DW357]

I care if I am carrying for self protection. If god forbid I should actually have to shoot somebody or use deadly force, I want it to be with a MA approved gun that I bought locally.

If you ever have to shoot somebody in MA you are going to have a lot of questions to answer, why make it even worse?

Oh man not this crap again

 

[DW357]

Not smoking any crack at all and I stand by my statements. Maybe you should talk to someone who actually had to defend themselves in MA and listen to what they went through and what it cost them. You obviously don’t understand the scrutiny that you will be under, and that scrutiny will not only apply to you, but also your gun.

Stop listening to the folks at Four Seasons

 

[AHM]

Stop listening to the folks at Four Seasons The Gun Room

FTFY.

 

[Waher]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWemHyQ6Ghc

Damn it really does look like Sig and CZ's love child.

 

[Tallahassee]

And this has to be one of the dumbest things I have heard on NES. If you think your “roscoe” is going to get the job done better than an MA approved gun you must have one hell of a “roscoe”. And to state what “happens after, happens” is rather cavalier and might make you a hero, but a jammed up hero with some major legal expenses.

Oh, my roscoe is definitely better than yours.

Defending your family is not looking to be a hero, it's the right thing to do. And if worrying about legal expenses becomes a factor, you are doing it wrong.

I highly recommend Len's class. You owe it to yourself to become more knowledgable.

 

[kalash]

Maybe you should talk to someone who actually had to defend themselves in MA and listen to what they went through and what it cost them. You obviously don’t understand the scrutiny that you will be under, and that scrutiny will not only apply to you, but also your gun.

Name just one self-defense case where the roster was brought up. If you can't, then shush.

 

[cathouse01]

Name just one self-defense case where the roster was brought up. If you can't, then shush.

If fact name any case that didn’t involve an FFL where the roster was brought up.

 

[Coda]

Just like our Ruger Mk III 22/45 Target.
Well, except for the firing pin return spring.

But I decided to add moar aftermarket safety to the gun.

Tandemkross Firing Pin Rebound Spring, Ruger MK Series, 5 Pack

Check out the deal on Tandemkross Firing Pin Rebound Spring, Ruger MK Series, 5 Pack at MGW

www.midwestgunworks.com

Now it's 5+1==6x as safe as it was before.

Of course, we now get 100% Failure to Fire,
since the firing pin won't move an angstrom
with all those springs jammed in there.

Sounds to me like it's high time for an NES Road Trip to Chicago.

Sweep the streets; confiscate all the giggle switches.
A cutting-out party for a new age.

(I call shotgun).


To be fair, if @Coda ever has to defend himself, when he gets jacked up,
the prosecutor will introduce the evidence of his NES avatar
as proof that he made light of the serious serious business of legal gun ownership.

And (unlike Megan),
Coda's Spokes-Macaw doesn't even have an LTC.
They'll mention that, too.
@one-eyed Jack

You know it's true.
You know that's how they roll.

Meanwhile, you know those Entering <Town> signs in Massachusetts?

The signposts actually all contain a tiny locking compartment where
Ayoob has a cache of the precise carry ammo used by <T>PD,
from the exact same lot that the Chief is carrying.

When he drives from Manchester to Providence,
he stops and changes out his carry ammo at each border,
so that in the gravest extreme,
he can't be accused of shooting boolits killier than the local constabulary.
#ProTip

If you want to go after me because I express an opinion that does not go along with your herd mentality that’s fine. But leave my Macaw out of it, she’s just sitting on top of her cage minding her own business. Nice cat by the way........

 

[AHM]

... Nice cat by the way........

(It's probably a non-fungible token or something).

 

[Wickedcoolname]

I care if I am carrying for self protection. If god forbid I should actually have to shoot somebody or use deadly force, I want it to be with a MA approved gun that I bought locally.

If you ever have to shoot somebody in MA you are going to have a lot of questions to answer, why make it even worse?

"MA approved gun." It's seems as though the Mass government PsyOp actually does work on some people.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

There is absolutely nothing in MGL that makes handgun compliance an obligation of the consumer, not sure what kind of crack you are smoking.

Not only that but aside from the "compliance issue", if the gun is denounced by the AG (like Glocks) your role in a purchase transaction would be "victim of an unfair and deceptive trade practice".

 

[LittleCalm]

I cannot believe that you guys think the earth is round...

 

[not new guy]

Aside from the grip it’s not bad looking. Sort of looks like an old Jericho 941. That’s a range or duty gun though, not carry.

 

[Coda]

Maybe you should talk to someone that was in court for defending himself with a gun that wasn't on the list.

Go search for the case and get back to us.

OK, I'll say it again........ "You will have a lot of questions to answer" why add to the list??? Maybe you will be OK but I don't want to be the test case. Keep in mind that after the authorities have (hopefully) determined it was a good shoot, then you have the family looking at a civil case. And do you really think that their attorney isn’t going to make mention of how that gun was obtained? I would be very surprised if in a civil case that there would be no mention of the gun not being on the approved roster.

I get it, the chances of you getting jammed up are slim but I for one do not need that risk. Am I scared of these crazy liberal prosecutors, Healey, and the rest of this washing machine they call the MA legal system? You bet I am.