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SCOTUS Grants Cert to a Gun Case! (NY State)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by soloman02, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. soloman02

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    BREAKING: Supreme Court Grants Cert to NY State Rifle & Pistol Assn. v. City of NY Gun Rights Case - The Truth About Guns
     

  2. crispnipz

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    When I read that I got giddier than a school girl who got a new barbie doll, any modicum of a potentiality of a favorable ruling is good news!
     
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    When I opened NBC News this morning their headline was SCOTUS allows Trump to enforce Transgender Military Ban and it also said SCOTUS refused to hear the NY Gun case (along with a couple other decisions they made re DACA, an Indiana Abrtion law). I just went back and checked that article and they removed any reference to the gun case.
     
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  4. Dennis in MA

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    Fingers crossed.
     
  5. rwl1955

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    What does "cert" mean?
     
  6. drgrant

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    Means the supremes voted to hear the case. If they deny Certiorari that means the lower ruling stands.

    -Mike
     
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    [party]

    It's going to be a fun one to watch!
     
  9. Dradian

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    Yes, Certiorari. Not Centauri, no one denies Londo.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Does anyone have an opinion on how this bodes for concealed carry and other 2A rights? It seems to me that they picked a case challenging ridiculous restrictions, rather than something like Gould that would have broader impact. I'm worried about what the upshot will be. They may vote only to expand 2A jurisprudence slightly, and stop there.
     
  11. rwl1955

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    got it.
     
  12. Dennis in MA

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    Better success at scoring on dates.

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    Retsin makes girls randy. ;)
     
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    I think they will rule in a manner which affirms the requirement for strict scrutiny. Which would make challenges to dumb laws easier and potentially end May Issue. Also make NY and NJ obey the FOPA.

    It would be a nice pimp slap across the face of belligerent lower courts hell bent on ignoring Miller, Heller, and Caetano.
     
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    should we assume that means the next session?
     
  15. drgrant

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    Likely, not sure how all that works though, I just know that the process takes a long assed time, but at least its in their queue now...

    -Mike
     
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    Based on my totally inexpert analysis, this seems the most likely explanation. It lays the groundwork for subsequent cases to challenge other dumb laws and require courts to use the highest level of scrutiny for evaluating their constitionality.
     
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    From SCOTUS blog (Justices to review New York gun rights case - SCOTUSblog)

    The Supreme Court’s calendar for April was already full before last week’s conference, so the new grant likely won’t be argued until the fall. The justices’ eventual ruling in the case could stick to the relatively narrow question of whether the city’s law is constitutional, or it might shed light on a broader and more consequential question: whether the right to have a gun extends outside the home. Either way, the court’s opinion in the case probably won’t come until the spring of 2020.
     
  18. Rob Boudrie

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    It means that at least 4 justices think their side will win if the case is heard.
     
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    NICE! Now if Ruthie would only retire( I wouldn't wish any ill health on the woman) we 'd have a slam dunk.
     
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    Assuming that Baker, Maura, and their minions don’t ignore or defy the ruling.

    Bob
     
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    And likely when RGB will have retired. 6-3, maybe 5-4 if Roberts or Kavanaugh turns on us.
     
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    What's the difference between non strict scrutiny and strict scrutiny? How strict? Shall not be infringed strict?
     
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    I am continuously irked by statements like this. The onus should never be on the citizen, but rather on the state to prove it is authorized to generate such laws. If every publication parsed it like: "it might shed light on a broader and more consequential question: whether the power to infringe on bearing arms outside the home is legal," we'd see a lot less infringement. I'd like to couple that with asset forfeiture and mandatory jail sentence for politicians that vote "yes" on, or fail to veto such legislature.
     
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    Of course they will, do you think Comrade Bill and Cuomo would obey such a ruling? Some poor bastard would be their test case and they're playing with house money.
     
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    Well when MA SJC got owned by SCOTUS in Caetano (stun guns/tasers were illegal in MA), MA can change the law to accommodate, which they did. SCOTUS forced MA to make stun guns legal and now they are on the condition that you need an LTC. I have no idea how MA would change the law WRT to restrictions on LTCs if/when SCOTUS forces MA's hand, but I would imagine something like a live fire test or stricter rules in the process of getting one.
     
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    Doesn't it mean 5 think so?
     
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    I don't see how they could defy the ruling if SCOTUS rules on the case using Kavanaugh's wording from the article wrt strict scrutiny. In essence, Kavanaugh stated that there's "no meaningful or persuasive constitutional distinction between semi-automatic handguns and semi-automatic rifles."


     
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    No, Rob is right. Four vote to take the case, which they haven't done in several other 2nd Amendment cases because they didn't think that they had the 5 votes when Kennedy was on board or the case wasn't good enough for them to use strict scrutiny.
     
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