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? regarding NH pistol permit
- Thread starter MJM
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radioman
NES Member
Are you saying you made a wallet sized copy of your wallet sized New Hampshire pistol permit, then left the actual permit at home and carry the copy?
If this is what you did my opinion would be carry the original.
If this is what you did my opinion would be carry the original.
Yes. That's how I carry mine
There is no statutory requirement to carry your License on your person. A small copy (mine is credit-card sized color copy; laminated keeps it from folding) is more than sufficient. The original is not only too large to conveniently carry, but it's also fragile, and will soon start to look like an original copy of the Declaration of Independence if hauled around in your wallet.
There is no statutory requirement to carry your License on your person. A small copy (mine is credit-card sized color copy; laminated keeps it from folding) is more than sufficient. The original is not only too large to conveniently carry, but it's also fragile, and will soon start to look like an original copy of the Declaration of Independence if hauled around in your wallet.
I know my permit is not wallet sized (it's about 8" x 5", so it doesn't carry well in a wallet. MJM said what he meant, he reduced the size while makingt a copy in order to make it fit in his wallet.
Correct. We get a big ol' honking piece of paper, and to make it even more fragile, note that it's printed on recycled paper.
I suppose if you never pull it out and open it, you're fine. Try opening and closing it a few times (like, for say, FTF gun buys or to certify for a course), and it rapidly becomes the paper of many pieces.
Correct. We get a big ol' honking piece of paper, and to make it even more fragile, note that it's printed on recycled paper.
Wow does that suck or what , I live in Mass and am used to being screwed , thanks New Hampshire .
J
Jose
I find it extremely odd that NH clings to such an anachronism for its residents but gives non-residents a proper, durable, plastic card.
I have no problem with it. It keeps costs down.
J
Jose
Your plastic license used to cost $20 and I seriously doubt it cost that much to make out of plastic rather than paper.
That is until your state decided that everyone else should become a cash cow and raised the price fivefold.
You're right. My state sucks.
J
Jose
Your words, not mine.
What does your DL have to do with a pistol License? Nothing! They are in no way, shape or form linked.
Exactly! Otherwise, each and every town would need to purchase the card making machine, related software, etc. For non-residents, it all comes from one office, so all of that is there.
And think of it this way: who would complain about a jump in the fee for non-resident Pistol Licenses? That's right: Non-residents, who neither vote nor have Representatives in the state. They are the perfect "patsies" for money-grubbing lawmakers.
strangenh
NES Member
Yes, the resident's license is more like a receipt than a wallet "license" - that's because it's issued town by town without a central database. There's no requirement to have it on you, and any officer stopping someone where a license question comes up is going to call it into the resident's town's police to verify anyway. A fancy card is of zero utility.
More fancy = more complexity in the system. Right now we've got a 2-page form, a $10 fee, and a 14 day turnaround. That's nice and simple, and what we get is a nice and simple piece of paper. It's actually quite brilliant as is.
That hasn't been my experience.
Not an anachronism. Its done on purpose to place impediments on centralizing licensing for residents. I dispute your description of a plastic card as "proper," and don't think that making it any more "durable" would be a good idea.
Strictly speaking, and just looking out for the best interests of residents, NH shouldn't issue a non-resident license at all. This would encourage non-residents who want to carry here to do the work to get NH's license recognized in their respective states.
However, the non-residents have a powerful voice in the NH legislature, so the non-resident license not only exists, but the costs to run the program have long been subsidized by NH residents. The fee was only recently raised when the state budget shortfall became so great that this inequity could no longer be ignored.
Explain the evidence underlying this rather strange conclusion. How do non-residents have a "powerful voice in the NH legislature?" Who is this "powerful voice?"
I have to agree with Racenet here.
As far as I understand it, you are not legally required to have it on your person but I suggest you at least have a copy. There is NO centralised database in NH, for Resident Pistol/Revolver Licenses anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if there is for Non-Res though, since it is handled by the State Police. For residents, the issuing PD keeps a copy on file, but I wouldn't go wandering around NH (with a concealed firearm) without some proof that you are properly licensed on your person.
If you are believed to be carrying without a license and the officer in question can't get in touch with your home PD, you're very likely to be detained and unarmed until you are proven to be licensed. It's "only" a misdemeanor the first time, but a felony the second and subsequent offences. I bet you are treated like you'll be facing felony charges until they know better. Food for thought.
