Obama Pushing Treaty To Ban Reloading

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From Gun Owners of America:

http://www.gunowners.org/fs0901.htm

Please use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Senators a pre-written e-mail message.


Tuesday, April 21, 2009

It's called the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials. To be sure, this imponderable title masks a really nasty piece of work.

First of all, when the treaty purports to ban the "illicit" manufacture of firearms, what does that mean?

1. "Illicit manufacturing" of firearms is defined as "assembly of firearms [or] ammunition... without a license...."

Hence, reloading ammunition -- or putting together a lawful firearm from a kit -- is clearly "illicit manufacturing."

Modifying a firearm in any way would surely be "illicit manufacturing."

And, while it would be a stretch, assembling a firearm after cleaning it could, in any plain reading of the words, come within the screwy definition of "illicit manufacturing."

2. "Firearm" has a similarly questionable definition.

"[A]ny other weapon" is a "firearm," according to the treaty -- and the term "weapon" is nowhere defined.

So, is a BB gun a "firearm"? Probably.

A toy gun? Possibly.

A pistol grip or firing pin? Probably. And who knows what else.

If these provisions (and others) become the law of the land, the Obama administration could have a heyday in enforcing them.

Consider some of the other provisions in the treaty:

* Banning Reloading. In Article IV of the treaty, countries commit to adopting "necessary legislative or other measures" to criminalize illicit manufacturing and trafficking in firearms.

Remember that "illicit manufacturing" includes reloading and modifying or assembling a firearm in any way. This would mean that the Obama administration could promulgate regulations banning reloading on the basis of this treaty -- just as it is currently circumventing Congress to write legislation taxing greenhouse gases.

* Banning Gun Clubs. Article IV goes on to state that the criminalized acts should include "association or conspiracy" in connection with said offenses -- which is arguably a term broad enough to allow, by regulation, the criminalization of entire pro-gun organizations or gun clubs, based on the facilities which they provide their membership.

* Extraditing US Gun Dealers. Article V requires each party to "adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction over the offenses it has established in accordance with this Convention" under a variety of circumstances.

We know that Mexico is blaming U.S. gun dealers for the fact that its streets are flowing with blood. And we know it is possible for Mexico to define offenses "committed in its territory" in a very broad way.

And we know that we have an extradition obligation under Article XIX of the proposed treaty. So we know that Mexico could try to use the treaty to demand to extradition of American gun dealers.

Under Article XXIX, if Mexico demands the extradition of a lawful American gun dealer, the U.S. would be required to resolve the dispute through "other means of peaceful settlement."

Does anyone want to risk twenty years in a sweltering Mexican jail on the proposition that the Obama administration would apply this provision in a pro-gun manner?

* Microstamping. Article VI requires "appropriate markings" on firearms. And, it is not inconceivable that this provision could be used to require microstamping of firearms and/or ammunition -- a requirement which is clearly intended to impose specifications which are not technologically possible or which are possible only at a prohibitively expensive cost.

* Gun Registration. Article XI requires the maintenance of any records, for a "reasonable time," that the government determines to be necessary to trace firearms. This provision would almost certainly repeal portions of McClure-Volkmer and could arguably be used to require a national registry or database.

ACTION: Write your Senators and urge them to oppose the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.

Please use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Senators the pre-written e-mail message below.

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

I am urging you, in the strongest terms, to oppose the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.

This anti-gun treaty was written by international bureaucrats who are either stupid or virulently anti-gun -- or both.

This treaty could very well ban the ability to reload ammunition, to put new stocks on rifles lawfully owned by American citizens, and, possibly, even ban BB guns!

There are too many problems with this treaty to mention them all in this letter. The rest can be read on the website of Gun Owners of America

at:

http://www.gunowners.org/fs0901.htm

Please do not tell me the treaty has not yet been abused in this way by the bevy of Third World countries which have signed it. We do not expect the real ramifications of the treaty to become clear until the big prize -- the U.S. -- has stepped into the trap.

For all of these reasons, I must insist that you oppose ratification of the treaty.

Sincerely,

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John Bolton was on Beck last night, talking about how Obama would seek to introduce the most insideous aspects of gun control through treaty. He seemed to be adamant that the US was at risk of surrendering soveriegnty to UN organs in this manner.
 
Possession of reloading parts and components will be 1 count of felony possession of contraband, per part. 4th amendment need not apply to this treaty and they'll come a lookin'
 
I saw a movie, Lord of War, recently where the movie ends talking about stopping illegal gun trafficking. They then call out the US, Chinese and Russian governments for selling the vast majority of the small arms in use by corrupt governments around the world. I have no doubt as to the accuracy of the claim. This treaty is just theater and political slight of hand to make it seem like the problem is in the private sector.
 
I sent emails to my reps. This is complete BS! [angry]

lord1234 said:
nah..4 at a time...bullet, primer, powder, brass.

for shotguns they get em 5 at a time...shot, wad, powder, hull, primer.
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Chances are, under this treaty, this forum would get shut down, as we discuss reloading here, as well as sell reloading equiptment.
For the love of NES WRITE YOUR REPRESENTATIVES!!!
 
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The sad part of this, according to Bolton, is that a treaty is negotiated behind closed doors by a select few individuals. Then, I believe, a treaty can "trump" (my words) the constitution.

I think there is a clear pre-meditative effort to dismantle the constitution. It is obvious that the 2nd amendment would never be overturned in congress so this is one way to do this without having to deal with the bill of rights.

Evan
 
flyfish said:
I think there is a clear pre-meditative effort to dismantle the constitution. It is obvious that the 2nd amendment would never be overturned in congress so this is one way to do this without having to deal with the bill of rights.

Evan
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I may/may not be alone here, but those kind of actions will not last long with the nation (for the most part). Once he (if) starts to try and circumvent the Constitution people will not tolerate it. In this situation I firmly believe that he would be peacfully removed from his postion of power by the Gov't.

-DM-
 
I e-mailed Kerry and Kennedy [crying] I am sure they will stop this!

Its amazing that the mainstream media made this look like simply a treaty to have simple ID Marks from the country of origin on the gun!

What a loser this President is!

Read more about Bolton in this months issue of NRA-ILA Magazine!

Also is it just me or do these left wing moonbats only acknowledge the constitution when convenient for them to do so!
 
All praise our dear overlord and messiah. We bow to thee.

To all Obots - we told ya so.
 
rg1283 said:
I e-mailed Kerry and Kennedy [crying] I am sure they will stop this!

Its amazing that the mainstream media made this look like simply a treaty to have simple ID Marks from the country of origin on the gun!

What a loser this President is!

Read more about Bolton in this months issue of NRA-ILA Magazine!

Also is it just me or do these left wing moonbats only acknowledge the constitution when convenient for them to do so!
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you might as well be driving to the wharf and dropping that message into Plymouth bay when you send anything about the RKBA to Kennedy or Kerry.
 

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