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NY Assembly Passes Comprehensive Gun Package - 13 in all

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Some pretty scary stuff if it manages to reach the Governors desk for approval. One of the bills calls for banning the sale and possession of .50 caliber firearms. Any existing guns would have to be removed from the state, surrendered to the police (for reimbursement), or face possible confiscation.


Assembly Passes Comprehensive Gun Package
Bills Will Help Police Track Illegal Guns, Ban Armor-Piercing Ammunition

Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver and Assembly Codes Committee Chair Joseph Lentol today announced the Assembly's passage of a legislative package to combat gun violence. The bills will enhance safety by assisting police in their efforts to investigate illegal firearms, prohibiting felons from buying guns, requiring child-proof devices on guns and banning advanced firearms and ammunition used to kill police officers.

"New York is one of the safest states in the nation and it must stay that way," said Silver (D-Manhattan). To achieve this, we must craft laws that prevent dangerous felons from possessing weapons while assisting law enforcement agencies as they combat gun trafficking. Although the majority of gun owners are law-abiding citizens, we must ensure that guns do not fall into the hands of violent felons or children. This package contains bills that address public safety, while weighing the needs of hunters and sportspeople."

Silver added that this year's legislation, considered this week in recognition of National Crime Victims Week, was introduced in remembrance of the tenth anniversary of the 1999 Columbine High School shooting and the 13 victims of the recent shooting in Binghamton.

"Last year, the Assembly successfully passed legislation which was enacted that creates a comprehensive database to help prevent people suffering from serious mental illnesses from purchasing guns," said Lentol (D-Brooklyn). "This year, we will continue pushing for smart gun laws to protect communities across New York. Today's legislation sets important record keeping and reporting standards for gun dealers and pawn shops and prohibits the sale of ammunition which serves no practical purpose yet possesses the capacity to pierce through protective bulletproof vests. Additionally, our legislation helps police investigate gun-related crimes through manufacturer identification of firearms."

One bill requires the re-licensing and recertification of firearms permits after five years (A.801A/Paulin). This will help ensure that licensing authorities have the oversight they need to protect the public while balancing the legitimate constitutional rights of gun owners. Another bill creates the Children's Weapon Accident Protection Act which requires that there be a weapons-safety program for schoolchildren and creates crimes of failing to safely store firearms (A.5844/Weisenberg).

The legislative package also addresses public safety by requiring all firearms sold in the state to be childproof (A.1326/Englebright) and capable of microstamping ammunition (A.6468/Schimel), and by instituting background checks for firearms sold at pawn shops (A.7574/Hoyt). Another bill requires stringent recordkeeping and reporting of gun sales, liability insurance and employee training for gunsmiths to prevent the sale of guns through so-called "straw purchases" (A.1093/Paulin).

Other measures in the Assembly gun package would:

* Protect the safety of law enforcement personnel by prohibiting the sale and ownership of ammunition designed to fragment or explode upon impact and pierce body armor (A.2881/Koon);
* Require law enforcement authorities to record projectiles, shell casings and guns in their possession which they suspect were used in a gun crime into an electronic databank (A.2882A/Koon);
* Ban the sale, use or possession of 50-caliber or larger weapons, and creates a program to recall those currently legally owned (A.3211A/Eddington);
* Define a "disguised gun" to include those weapons designed and intended to appear to be a toy gun and ban their production and sale. (A.5078/Lentol);
* Encourage responsible gun ownership by establishing a standard firearms safety course for people applying for a gun license (A.3076B/Kavanagh);
* Add to the definition of assault weapon to include additional weapons (A.6157/Titone); and
* Empower courts to revoke licenses and seize weapons of certain individuals who could present a threat to the public (A.7733/Lupardo).

http://assembly.state.ny.us/Press/20090428/
 
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...prohibits the sale of ammunition which serves no practical purpose yet possesses the capacity to pierce through protective bulletproof vests...

Ballistic vests are rated for what they can withstand. A 12 guage slug will punch through a IIA vest, as will many other calibers it's not rated to stop.

A .22 will penetrate a Level I vest, which is only rated to stop flak/shrapnel.

Words escape me for this brilliant ruling. [rolleyes]
 
And I thought hi-cap magazine registration in CA was bad...

Microstamping?
Banning .50's with no grandfathering?
Expansion of AWB?

I am starting to like MA.
 
your right its only a matter of time before this happens here!! did someone rob a store with a 50 cal??????????? stupidness at its highest!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Wonder if NYPD has any Barrets? I remember reading how a few of the SWAT type guys were wanting one, and if Ronnie holds true, LEO's in NY can't get toys that they want.

I just went to check Barrett's homepage and for some reason says its down.
 
One question I have is: After passing Heller, how do they expect to confiscate LEGAL 50 cal. ownership? Seems like a showdown at the Supreme Court to me...while we still own the court.

It's not as much a 2nd amendment issue as it is a 4th amendment one.

Even then... the Heller decision still needs to be incorporated before it would apply to state gun control laws.

Challenging a .50 ban might not even hold up to a second amendment grievance
due to the "in common use" determination set forth by the court.
 
Challenging a .50 ban might not even hold up to a second amendment grievance
due to the "in common use" determination set forth by the court.
[sad2] That specific item in the logic by the majority opinion was almost as ridiculous as all the logic the dissent...

They acknowledge as the 9th circuit now has that the purpose was for civilian based defense of self, state and community not only from foreign invaders, but from "domestic" enemies as well. So, why on earth would the type of weapon by limited?

Since we aren't invaded on a daily basis - you should not expect "common use" of those weapons you'd need to fend one off... At the time, for instance, cannons!

So, two things:

1. Perhaps we need to turn the courts words back on it and say - "well you said "common use" and "common use" in the context of an attack by a military force whether foreign or domestic would include everything from hand guns to belt-fed, to RPGs"

2. I guess we all need to go by 50 cals and use them often enough that it is "common" to see them at the range...
 
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