Michael Steele new head of RNC in support of AWB???

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Q: Should people have access to buy assault weapons?

A: Society should draw lines. What do you need an assault weapon for, if you're going hunting? That's overkill. But I don't think that means you go to a total ban for those who want to use gun for skeet shooting or hunting or things like that But what's the point of passing gun laws if we're not going to enforce them? If you want to talk about gun control, that's where you need to start. We've got 300 gun laws on the books right now. At the end of the day, it's about how we enforce the law.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Michael_Steele_Gun_Control.htm
 
What's this "assault weapon" they speak of? I'm not familiar with the term. Now, assault rifle is a real term... refers specifically to a machine gun.
 
No what was that about liberals/democrats/socialists/"insert boogie man du jour here" being the problem???

I like him too. But I think his confusion here might run deeper ... like right down to the intent of the Second Amendment.

Oh, he is likely not confused at all...
 
"What do People need an Assault Weapon for?"


hmmmmmmmmmmm let me see,

collecting, target shooting and just downright enjoyment of the Military type weapons. What else? What do people need motorcycles for? Enjoyment of riding on the road. Its not like motorcycles are an essential in life. We have cars too and mc's are for enjoyment. We dont outlaw motorcycles due to the HUGE accident / death rate they have do we? Of course not.

man these people just are such hypocrites because they dont take the time to think that lots of people like to enjoy AWs just like they enjoy so called "potentially" dangerous things in their lives.

Idiots.... I dont know why I even respond to posts like this because I know the answer to these idiotic type mindsets that these hypocritical people have and that they just dont care about us as gun owners or what we enjoy or the simple fact that its not the gun that is the problem....... its the "suck ass" criminal justice system that we continue to allow to run that makes it possible for sex offenders (2 child offenders living right down the road from me)and dangerous criminals to have the ability to keep up their way of life. How about cracking down on "douche bag" criminals and putting them away for good (DP would be nice!) and leaving our ways of life alone.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGG [frown][frown][frown]

man I make a good Cop dont I?
 
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No what was that about liberals/democrats/socialists/"insert boogie man du jour here" being the problem???

The difference here is, I wouldn't waste ink and paper writing to any of them (except maybe certain Democrats) as it would do me no good. I got a form-letter reply from Fat Teddy once, back in the 80s, and rued the money spent on the stamp I put on that letter.
 
I don't know about anyone else but it grinds my gears when people use the term "assault weapon". What exactly is an "assault weapon"? If a bad guy stabs you with a pen does that make the pen an "assault pen"?
 
I don't know about anyone else but it grinds my gears when people use the term "assault weapon". What exactly is an "assault weapon"? If a bad guy stabs you with a pen does that make the pen an "assault pen"?

Apparently, at least in Massachusetts and certain other states at this time, an "assault weapon" is whatever the government says it is.
 
Could it be possible that he is just playing "The Game". Seems to me he's saying that we have enough laws on the books all ready and it's not a question of laws but enforcement.

No matter, this is not something that can be left to chance. He needs to hear our voices. Getting tired of them protecting my "right to hunt". I want them to protect the Consitution, dammit.





I've lurked here for a long time now, I think I found my new E-home. I'm awaiting my Safty/training cert and once in hand will submit for a LTC-A ALP. I live in a GREEN town so should not be an issue. Have plans on going GREEN and joining GOAL when funds permit.
 
I was nervous when I read "he was the most moderate of the five candidates." Now I know at least 1 reason why. When will the Republican party leadership recognize that they lost the last 2 elections by moving too far away from the conservative base. IMNSHO the moderate, middle-of-the-road voter is now effectively a myth.
 
I like Steele. He may just be confused on what an assault weapon is.

He is an example of why the Republican party is where it is...

They have no idea what to stand for and what to stand against. HE MENTIONED HUNTING.... WTF DOES HUNTING HAVE TO DO WITH THE 2ND?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Another F-ing RINO.
 
I don't know about anyone else but it grinds my gears when people use the term "assault weapon". What exactly is an "assault weapon"? If a bad guy stabs you with a pen does that make the pen an "assault pen"?

There is no such thing as a "assault weapon". It is a scare word to frighten soccer moms into voting for gun banners. Anything that is used to assault some one is a "assault weapon" rock, pen, pencil, dildo..ect. There is no such thing that is inherently used to assault people. With that said this guy has no clue about the RKBA and is no friend of ours.
 
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Could it be possible that he is just playing "The Game". Seems to me he's saying that we have enough laws on the books all ready and it's not a question of laws but enforcement.

No matter, this is not something that can be left to chance. He needs to hear our voices. Getting tired of them protecting my "right to hunt". I want them to protect the Consitution, dammit.

I've lurked here for a long time now, I think I found my new E-home. I'm awaiting my Safty/training cert and once in hand will submit for a LTC-A ALP. I live in a GREEN town so should not be an issue. Have plans on going GREEN and joining GOAL when funds permit.

Welcome to the group.

Republicans "playing the game" is exactly why the party is spinning circles in the parking lot. They have to stop trying to please everyone and re-focus on being CONSERVATIVE. No exceptions.
 
Welcome to the group.

Republicans "playing the game" is exactly why the party is spinning circles in the parking lot. They have to stop trying to please everyone and re-focus on being CONSERVATIVE. No exceptions.
Thanks. It's going to take a bit before they figure that out. I hope it won't be to late.
 
Republicans "playing the game" is exactly why the party is spinning circles in the parking lot. They have to stop trying to please everyone and re-focus on being CONSERVATIVE. No exceptions.

Agreed on that. Steele has made some welcome statements recently about the need to rebuild a "conservative party". I'd like to give him an opportunity to revise and extend his remarks as published at the "On The Issues" website.

STEELE: Absolutely. Sean, we are the conservative party of this country. And under the leadership of our new president and Rahm Emanuel, the Democrats have declared themselves to be the liberal party. And this is great, this is great. So now we have got this wonderful opportunity to clearly define the distinctions between the left and the right, conservatives and liberals and have the American people choose who we believe is still a center-right nation have them choose to go in a direction of peace and prosperity, opportunity and empowerment

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/01/interview_with_michael_steele.html

Let's give him a fair trial before we hang him.

Another good article here.
 
A: Society should draw lines. What do you need an assault weapon for, if you're going hunting? That's overkill. But I don't think that means you go to a total ban for those who want to use gun for skeet shooting or hunting or things like that

If a Democrat made that statement, a lot of you posting things like" he must be confused" would be raising Holy Hell (and rightly so).

He can talk about enforcing existing laws all he wants, but in my book, anyone who starts off an answer to the question with:"Society should draw lines. What do you need an assault weapon for, if you're going hunting? That's overkill." is a gun grabber.

For all I know he's the Holy Grail in all other respects for you Republicans, which is fine, maybe you oppose him on gun control and like him on other stuff. But I don't think you can look at that statement and think he's pro 2A.
 
Let's give him a fair trial before we hang him.
He needs to be shown the proverbial noose on this though so that he knows of what he stands accused...

Time to empty another magazine of paper in their general direction...

I am not a single issue or party ticket voter, but there aren't many/any single issues left where the Republcrat party has it correct at the moment...
 
If a Democrat made that statement, a lot of you posting things like" he must be confused" would be raising Holy Hell (and rightly so).

He can talk about enforcing existing laws all he wants, but in my book, anyone who starts off an answer to the question with:"Society should draw lines. What do you need an assault weapon for, if you're going hunting? That's overkill." is a gun grabber.

For all I know he's the Holy Grail in all other respects for you Republicans, which is fine, maybe you oppose him on gun control and like him on other stuff. But I don't think you can look at that statement and think he's pro 2A.

Exactly.
 
If a Democrat made that statement, a lot of you posting things like" he must be confused" would be raising Holy Hell (and rightly so).

He can talk about enforcing existing laws all he wants, but in my book, anyone who starts off an answer to the question with:"Society should draw lines. What do you need an assault weapon for, if you're going hunting? That's overkill." is a gun grabber.

For all I know he's the Holy Grail in all other respects for you Republicans, which is fine, maybe you oppose him on gun control and like him on other stuff. But I don't think you can look at that statement and think he's pro 2A.

I think we are raising holy hell, or gettin' ready too. The GOP is on it's knees, and needs to hear from the base loud and frigging clear. In these times, we on the right have as clear a chance as ever, and maybe our last chance, to influence what the party does for the next 25 years.

Steele has stated that the Republicans may wander in the wilderness until 2020. He's knows what's at stake. He has left-leaning moderates trying to tug him to the left ... go soft on guns, on abortion, on homosexuality, on the other big hot-button social issues.

We need to tug him to the right. Hard.

If it doesn't work out, we walk away as we walked from Bush I and to an extent from Bush II. Neither was warmly regarded by conservatives. Both presided over governments best described as liberal-lite. Despite what you may think, conservatives were against the "compassionate conservatism" model from the start and view it as the disaster that brought us to where we are today.

This is make or break. Either the GOP goes back to its roots and makes a stand, or revo-bloody-lution.

What Steele had to say in Maryland might not play as well on the national stage. Steele is smart, and he knows that. He needs to reposition himself, and the party, and we need to let him hear it from us. As long as we have a national political party that is amenable to persuasion, we must try to persuade. There's simply no point at all in addressing our concerns to the moonbat messiah and his creepy entourage of leftist toadies.

What we don't need is advice from the moonbat choir.
 
Maryland is a pretty anti-gun state because most of the population is in Baltimore, Annapolis, and the suburbs of DC. The rural and outer suburbian areas are \ pro-gun but have been overwhelmed. Let's see if he makes any statements on the national stage, I don't think you'll see that, I think was probably trying to cater to the liberal democratic voters in that state.

That said, it is distressing even to read that from a Republican, much less the chair of the RNC.
 
I like Steele and think he can do a good job of rebuilding the GOP.
For the record Iam NOT a Republican and view myself as a strict Constitutionalist. To adjust Steele's views we need to write him and start telling him that moving away from strict 2nd interpretation will further errode the base that is so fragile as it is.
We need to carefully list the points of principle that can not be compromised and list why they are importent.
He can be a good leader if he gets the right input.
 
Great, an anti in charge of the Republican party! Who the heck voted HIM in, and did they know his stance?
 
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