Massachusetts a model for dealing with gun violence

[luckythirteengt]

I looked for a state that’s taking gun violence seriously. I found Massachusetts.

Wow the problem may be spreading

 

[Fixxah]

What crap.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

I looked for a state that’s taking gun violence seriously. I found Massachusetts.

Wow the problem may be spreading

One of the keys to success in MA must be allowing 92% of handgun owners to carry them in public.

 

[deerdad]

We all know how the whole control thing worked for the british so many years ago.

Greg

 

[Uzi2]

One of the keys to success in MA must be allowing 92% of handgun owners to carry them in public.

Easily done when those owning/carrying are only a very small fraction of the population.

Has more to do with lack of guns and brainwashed sheeple.

 

[crispnipz]

What a great article about guns from someone who doesn't have any. Love how they mention New Hampshire but fail to mention that NH has a lower per-capita gun murder rate than MA, despite having basically no restrictions. It's almost like gun homicide rates don't correlate with laws and do correlate with demographic differences.

 

[foy1der]

I really like how they mention an LTC can be obtained in 4 to 6 weeks. They don't appear to have talked with any actual gun owners.

 

[blindndead]

I really like how they mention an LTC can be obtained in 4 to 6 weeks. They don't appear to have talked with any actual gun owners.

Honestly, put my renewal in end of April got it after am phone call to the PD and said " oh yea its ready ill send it out'. The end of September..

 

[Dennis in MA]

Oh gosh the stupid in him was striking. Just striking.

NH had a lower violent crime rate, gun rate and murder rate than MA. With this "lax" gun purchase system. How can that be????

Years ago, my aunt told me about some "Catholic community" in FL that she wanted to move to. Super strict. No sinning. (Stop laughing - she was serious!). Yada yada. Asked if I wanted to go. "Ummm, no Ging. I'll pass. If you want to subject yourself to that, go ahead. I'll stay here in free America."

The gun blubberers should make their own community inside of a state - Mass even. We could probably build this somewhere in the 413. No guns. No hint of guns. Crime would be extra-illegal. Problem solved. People safe. You-topia!!!! LOL

 

[Sparky123]

I really like how they mention an LTC can be obtained in 4 to 6 weeks. They don't appear to have talked with any actual gun owners.

4 to 6 weeks ? My last renewal took around 93 days.

 

[Sparky123]

I looked for a state that’s taking gun violence seriously. I found Massachusetts.

Wow the problem may be spreading

Restricting legal gun ownership is is not taking violence seriously, it's just shifting attention away from criminals. Those who commit crimes don't give two s**ts about gun laws or any other laws for that matter.

 

[SKumar]

VOX!!!

Notice how when mentioning NH's weak gun laws, they did not mention their low violent crime rate.

Aaaaand of course they're using CDC data, which doesn't account suicides and legal homicides.

"As David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, put it, “All other things equal, [places] where there’s strong laws and with few guns do much better than places where there’s weak laws and lots of guns.”" <----not true a**h***!!

 

[snax]

I didn't bother to read it, but did they mention that MA courts like to throw the book at the smallest infraction by a legal gun owner and burden them with a conviction for life while they let the criminals plead away all their gun charges and walk with a misdemeanor on jaywalking or some other meaningless, punishment-free charge?

 

[PaulR]

“I’m just so happy to live in Massachusetts,” Hemenway told me. “There are several reasons, but this is one of them. It’s just a lot safer.”


<breathe>

 

[Al-Jim19]

The opener where it said that buying a gun in NH was easier than getting a drivers license....and then said all you have to do is show ID and pass a background check. Lol.

 

[MaverickNH]

Having just heard Jim Wallace GOAL on NRA New last week about the increasing firearms homicide rate in MA, I'm a little miffed with this article...

 

[JohnZ]

ma laws must be working - we haven't had a muslim shoot up a gay nightclub. Thanks maura.

 

[atmay]

The opener where it said that buying a gun in NH was easier than getting a drivers license....and then said all you have to do is show ID and pass a background check. Lol.

Well, to be fair....most of our gunshops aren’t just open from 8-4, M-F.

The simple fact that you can buy a gun without using PTO kinda does make it easier than doing anything at the DMV

 

[drgrant]

The opener where it said that buying a gun in NH was easier than getting a drivers license....and then said all you have to do is show ID and pass a background check. Lol.

They forgot the fact that the NH NICS poc sucks so bad that even with all the paperwork an NH resident will often be delayed administratively over an hour or more.... at least when buying a handgun.

-Mike

 

[atmay]

They forgot the fact that the NH NICS poc sucks so bad that even with all the paperwork an NH resident will often be delayed administratively over an hour or more.... at least when buying a handgun.

-Mike

I once waited 4 hours to give the DMV a check for $37.

Buying a gun IS easier lol.

 

[ReluctantDecoy]

"Applicants also have to take a gun safety course, which teaches safe storage and handling of a firearm but does not involve live firing."

Is every part of that article wrong, or just my imagination? Whatever happened to real journalism?

 

[sieveboy]

I’d like to dump the author out of an Uber on southern Melnea Cass Boulevard and have him report back.

 

[Dennis in MA]

The opener where it said that buying a gun in NH was easier than getting a drivers license....and then said all you have to do is show ID and pass a background check. Lol.

Too be fair, you need to pass a written and road test to get a drivers license. But there is no mention of vehicles and their uses aren’t mentioned in the Constitution or Bill of Rights.

 

[ReluctantDecoy]

I’d like to dump the author out of an Uber on southern Melnea Cass Boulevard and have him report back.

That's a terrible area. Drive through it every day. More junkies per square foot than anywhere else I've ever seen first hand. It's like a god damn convention center in the summer. One of the many reasons I got my LTC. That being said, I'd be more worried about getting stabbed than shot there. Luckily, I've never had to go on foot around those parts.

 

[Picton]

"Applicants also have to take a gun safety course, which teaches safe storage and handling of a firearm but does not involve live firing."

Is every part of that article wrong, or just my imagination? Whatever happened to real journalism?

What’s wrong with what you quoted?

A lot of courses offer or include live fire, but when I did mine the state didn’t require it.

 

[ReluctantDecoy]

What’s wrong with what you quoted?

A lot of courses offer or include live fire, but when I did mine the state didn’t require it.

The problem is with the definitive nature of the statement. I'd wager that most courses involve live fire these days.

 

[Yazz]

Criminals do not obey laws. When will they figure that out.

 

[TJL]

I’d like to dump the author out of an Uber on southern Melnea Cass Boulevard and have him report back.

What is so "special" about Melnea Cass Boulevard, that the author would fear ?

 

[ridleyman]

It's the culture, stupid, not the guns! I have cousins in Switzerland with a real assault rifle in their house, along with millions of other people, and the only crime in the country is committed by immigrants from the Middle East, it seems.

 

[amm5061]

I once waited 4 hours to give the DMV a check for $37.

Buying a gun IS easier lol.

Come to think of it, I've actually had a harder time at the RMV than I ever had at a gun shop....