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If I am not mistaken it is the latter...most particularly children. I believe the intent of the law was to prevent young children from gaining access/firing.
I would concur. Since the gun need not be in a locked container if it has a trigger lock on it, there's no way the intent of the law could be to prevent theft. The law also uses the word "inoperable" not "unobtainable" for the condition you are required to create. The law is trying to keep unauthorized users (aka children) from being able to shoot the gun.
hmm, I thank this thread, I was trying to figure out how I could aford .25" thick steel plates for the gun safe i'm making, now I feel I can go a bit thinner and back it up with wood... I figure if it'd take more than 30 seconds with a cutting torch to get thru it, it's secure enough
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On another thought, is it against the law to hook the outer edge of a gun safe up to a cattle fence electrifier, just in case someone actualy does rip thru the outside of the thing...
hmm, I thank this thread, I was trying to figure out how I could aford .25" thick steel plates for the gun safe i'm making, now I feel I can go a bit thinner and back it up with wood... I figure if it'd take more than 30 seconds with a cutting torch to get thru it, it's secure enough
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On another thought, is it against the law to hook the outer edge of a gun safe up to a cattle fence electrifier, just in case someone actualy does rip thru the outside of the thing...
It doesn't sound like fire resistance is one of your objectives, but using fire retardant sheet rock rather than wood for a backing material would provide better fire protection than a wood backing.
You could but you have to have 2 things energized for it to work. Essentially a positive and a ground. Otherwise you can touch one or the other and nothing will happen.
I could make the floor grounded, install a piece of metal under the carpet and attach it to neg
MasterShinken said:Hmm, good thought. the design i'm working on would have a metal safe (completely enclosed in metal) with a wooden cabinet outside, that would mask the fact that it was a safe. I am planning on making it decently air tight also. do you think the steel inner wall would be enough to protect it if the outside wood caught on fire?
In the design you describe, it would certainly secure your guns, but not provide fire protection. The wood case would burn and hold flame and heat close to the steel lining, with no OTHER protective layer between the steel and the contents. If you are concerned about fire as well as concealability, you may want to develop a different plan. (ex. purchase a fire retardant safe and conceal it in a closet, etc.)
You may want to consider another plan if fire is also a concern - (ex. purchase a safe and hide it in a closet).
Glad I posted the question, I had never thought of this. Do you think if I put a 5/8" piece of drywall in between the outer piece of steel, and a thinner piece of sheet steel inside would work, or better use drywall on the outside, and try to dress it up to look more like wood (laminate would probably work). It would be nice to make it mildly fire retardant. but I doubt I could get it fireproof within my design specifications. all in all though it's not my biggest concern, as most the safes I was looking at and would have bought had I not decided it was time for another fun DIY project were not fireproof by any means. the inside of the safe will not have any wood in it's construction, and each gun will be enclosed in a custom cutout foamish insert of material I have not yet decided, perhaps insulating/fireproof/meltproof specs will be more heavily weighted in that material .
Thanks for the info!