Maine gun bill would allow concealed weapons without permit

scubadive.ri said:
How quickly do you think they will act on the bill. I don't want to pay 60 bucks for my permit if I don't have to.
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I am in the same boat with NH. Renewal is ready to go, just need to fill out the check ($100) and add a stamp.

off topic: if bear baiting gets on ballot again it is suicide for the Dems in Maine
 
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Bonesinium said:
Thanks. Good to hear. Maine's knife laws are as bad as any states, though the enforcement of those laws is definitely not as bad.

The fact ANY folding knife is subjectively illegal, and ANY knife carried for the purpose of self defense is illegal, is pretty ridiculous. LD 264 would repeal one of the sections, but not the other section.

This would be repealed:

But this would not be:
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I had no idea Maine gun laws are that nuts. I carry such knives in truck and on person whenever I go to Maine. After all, I am out in the woods alone and may need them. So, I need to stop? F statists.
 
Prepper said:
I had no idea Maine gun laws are that nuts. I carry such knives in truck and on person whenever I go to Maine. After all, I am out in the woods alone and may need them. So, I need to stop? F statists.
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They are not gun laws, they are knife laws.
And I believe the exemptions pretty much nullify most of the provisions:
2. Exceptions. The provisions of this section concerning the carrying of concealed weapons do not apply to:

C. Knives used to hunt, fish or trap as defined in Title 12, section 10001;

Any folding or fixed-blade knife can be used to hunt, trap or fish. There is no provision saying you can only carry those during hunting, trapping, or fishing seasons.

The laws are so vague, you'd never be arrested for that violation alone. Maybe if you were arrested in a bar fight, they'd use the vague laws to tack on some additional charges. I don't know.

Here is how the KnifeUp website summarizes Maine knife laws:
"In Maine, it is legal to own any knife except for switchblades, balisongs, and other automatic knives. You can not conceal carry dirks, stilettos, and dangerous knives. You can also not aggressively display dirks, stilettos, and dangerous knives. A knife is a dangerous knife only if it was designed to hurt other humans. If a knife has a utility purpose, it would not fall under the definition of dangerous knife based upon case precedence."

Try to make sense of that.
Hopefully, this will all be a thing of the past after this Legislative session.
 
Good news! LD264 (repeal of the switchblade knife law) came out of committee with a unanimous "ought to pass" endorsement.

Lets hope the Constitutional Carry Bill fares as well.
 
PatMcD said:
"The Bill now has almost 100 co-sponsors, which represents well over 50% of Maine lawmakers including a majority in the Democrat-controlled Maine House"

Public hearing has yet to be scheduled.


Sounds good!


What really torques me off is that there is a faction of handgun "trainers" who hold classes for the CC Permits, who have come out against the Bill. I guess money is more important than Freedom to some people.
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Well, sounds like their value proposition is about to change. Instead of these ****s complaining about rights because it hurts the one they make, how about they focus on actual training for proficiency with a firearm? You know, to people who want to get better training. There are trainer in states with constitutional carry who do just fine. You have to know how to market yourself, and being against civil liberties is no excuse for not knowing how to market....
 
A hearing date for LD 652, the Constitutional Carry bill, has been set:
April 8, 1:00 in Room 436 of the Maine State House.
 
LD 264- the "switchblade" bill is now law in Maine! Gov signed it yesterday.
That was fast. Hope the CC bill happens just as fast.
 
PatMcD said:
LD 264- the "switchblade" bill is now law in Maine! Gov signed it yesterday.
That was fast. Hope the CC bill happens just as fast.
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§1055. POSSESSION OR DISTRIBUTION OF DANGEROUS KNIVES
1. A person is guilty of possession or distribution of dangerous knives if, when the person has no right
to do so, the person knowingly manufactures or causes to be manufactured, or knowingly possesses, displays,
offers, sells, lends, gives away or purchases any knife that has a blade that opens automatically by hand
pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in the handle of the knife, or any knife having a blade that
opens or falls or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward or centrifugal
thrust or movement.
[ 2011, c. 464, §18 (AMD) .]
2. Possession or distribution of dangerous knives is a Class D crime.
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Repealed. Very nice.
 
I think they only tabled it because the senator that originated the bill was out of town for business. They wanted him there for whatever reason.

Bloomberg & Co. are definitely up to shenanigans though. They have an ad running on TV that states "if this bill passes, convicted criminals will be able to conceal a handgun. Contact your legislator".
 
PatMcD said:
I think they only tabled it because the senator that originated the bill was out of town for business. They wanted him there for whatever reason.

Bloomberg & Co. are definitely up to shenanigans though. They have an ad running on TV that states "if this bill passes, convicted criminals will be able to conceal a handgun. Contact your legislator".
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They are consistent though. Lie and gin up fear of something that has never happened when other states have passed it.

I enjoy removing these obstacles to my (your) freedom, but I enjoy the thumping the anti's are getting almost as much.
 
PatMcD said:
I think they only tabled it because the senator that originated the bill was out of town for business. They wanted him there for whatever reason.

Bloomberg & Co. are definitely up to shenanigans though. They have an ad running on TV that states "if this bill passes, convicted criminals will be able to conceal a handgun. Contact your legislator".
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That's good news. I don't have the ability to get inside info in Maine so I am left with trying to interpret what the legislature's website says.
 
soloman02 said:
I think the bill might be dead. I don't know if the Maine legislature votes on bills like NH does (where a committee just votes on a recommendation which can be overturned on the floor) or if a committee vote seals the deal.

Majority of the committee just voted today for "Ought not to pass."

http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/bills/display_ps.asp?ld=652&PID=1456&snum=127&sec3#
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I believe the committee vote is a recommendation and doesn't kill it. The issue I believe are the cops who don't want to give up their power (and probably money they get from licenses) and oppose the bill. I think the mom's group aka bloomberg is dumping a bunch of money too.

I'm hopeful but that's from an outsider with no info any of you don't have.
 
They all still vote on it.
I wish it had been much, much sooner, though. The longer it sits, the more money and influence comes from outside from the gun control groups and Democrat leadership.
Ironically, the biggest hurdle in the Senate is ex-Vermont resident Stan Gerzofsky. Such a lying hypocrit.

We are still hopeful.
 
Asaltweapon said:
It had some hurdles to jump thru.

If southern and northern portions were divided in half the northern most likely would have passed.
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The major cities in the south are all dens of socialism, the rest of Maine is pretty 'conservative'. That being, leave me alone and I'll leave you alone mentality.
 
PatMcD said:
"The Bill now has almost 100 co-sponsors, which represents well over 50% of Maine lawmakers including a majority in the Democrat-controlled Maine House"

Public hearing has yet to be scheduled.


Sounds good!


What really torques me off is that there is a faction of handgun "trainers" who hold classes for the CC Permits, who have come out against the Bill. I guess money is more important than Freedom to some people.
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Charles Barkley said it best. I'd work for the clan if they paid me enough. People will do anything for money
 

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