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How many rounds is enough?
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Well said
Lank
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A minimum qty is important, but also don't keep all your eggs in one nest.
Try to have a stash elsewhere and a way to transport it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUCK-PICK-...TENDS-53-STOWS-AWAY-IN-BED-FLAT-/230751035057
It will be tough to move shrink wrapped skids, so think ahead.
The real answer there is never enough ammo
Try to have a stash elsewhere and a way to transport it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUCK-PICK-...TENDS-53-STOWS-AWAY-IN-BED-FLAT-/230751035057
It will be tough to move shrink wrapped skids, so think ahead.
The real answer there is never enough ammo
You don't even own an AR, yet? My heart hurts now. Get thee to a gun store and buy one! Lol.Very good points all of you and thank you for the multitude of responses.
I did just order 3000 rounds of green tip 5.56, and I don't even own an AR yet...call it a good start
My take on the ammo storage thing is this: it depends on what you're preparing for. If you are preparing for complete social breakdown, then yeah, get a MBR and plenty of ammo for it. (Lots of debate about whether or not something in 5.56 or 7.63X39 counts as an MBR, but I won't stir that pot this morning.
) You won't need anywhere near as much ammo for your pistol if society breaks down completely. If you're planning for the next election, when Hillary becomes president (which you should be), then stock up on all of it. Get rifle, pistol and shotgun ammo. Most importantly, get standard capacity mags. That's what they're going to go for. They might pass another federal assault weapons ban, but it will mirror the 94 ban. They're going to seek to completely get rid of standard capacity magazines. Have enough to last the rest of your life.
Another thing to think about is all this advice, as priceless as it is, is useless after the first round you catch. You need a good defensive plan, a good offensive plan and body armor.
If you are using your little gun to get to your big guns you will need to move and in some instances be out from under cover. Body armor to help protect you during those instances and a way to carry enough ammo in case you have to leave.
So lots of ammo, lots of guns and a lot of planning and drilling with your family.
If you are using your little gun to get to your big guns you will need to move and in some instances be out from under cover. Body armor to help protect you during those instances and a way to carry enough ammo in case you have to leave.
So lots of ammo, lots of guns and a lot of planning and drilling with your family.
Did anyone else hear a choir in the background as they read this?
You don't even own an AR, yet? My heart hurts now. Get thee to a gun store and buy one! Lol.
My take on the ammo storage thing is this: it depends on what you're preparing for. If you are preparing for complete social breakdown, then yeah, get a MBR and plenty of ammo for it. (Lots of debate about whether or not something in 5.56 or 7.63X39 counts as an MBR, but I won't stir that pot this morning.
If you're planning for the next election, when Hillary becomes president (which you should be), then stock up on all of it. Get rifle, pistol and shotgun ammo. Most importantly, get standard capacity mags. That's what they're going to go for. They might pass another federal assault weapons ban, but it will mirror the 94 ban. They're going to seek to completely get rid of standard capacity magazines. Have enough to last the rest of your life.
LOL no AR yet. I will be leaving MA in the next 6 months, and I am waiting to buy a real AR when I get to a free state!
This is written as though you have never fired a good subgun or PCC. That battle rifle is great past 200 yards but I will take my PCC inside 200 yards thank you very much.
To answer the OP:
- 10,000 rounds without a permit
- 50,000 rounds with a permit
(keep on hand what the lawr allows you to store on the premises. If you need moar then buy another property for additional storage.)
**The assumption is that whatever you have is never enough.**
I'm a 9mm guy and a .22lr.
My round of choice is .22lr. I can throw 2 bricks in a backpack and barely notice the weight. With my light rifle I can do head shots all day long at 100 yards and hit a paper plate at 200. That's more than enough for the woods in NE where you are lucky if you have a clear shot 60 yards away.
Anyway...most people can barely hit a target that is not moving after taking all the time in the world to aim, whatever your choice, make sure you can actually hit something.
My round of choice is .22lr. I can throw 2 bricks in a backpack and barely notice the weight. With my light rifle I can do head shots all day long at 100 yards and hit a paper plate at 200. That's more than enough for the woods in NE where you are lucky if you have a clear shot 60 yards away.
Anyway...most people can barely hit a target that is not moving after taking all the time in the world to aim, whatever your choice, make sure you can actually hit something.
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84ta406
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This man has it spot on! One of the biggest reasons I went out and bought a rifle that suits my needs. Building a AR as we speak too so I should be GTG. A pistol is only a tool you use to get you to a real gun.
GlockJock
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The kind of situation where you suddenly, urgently realize you actually needed 3001 rounds to, y'know, "resolve" the situation.....
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good point on the sub gun or even a pistol cal carbine inside 200. But a carbine ar, ak, or sks will handle 50 yards out past 200 as well. I dont own a pistol cal carbine or sub gun but have fires some. I preferyo keep it down to three tools. Ak shotgun amd pistol
M60
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How much can you take with you? That's the amount that's enough
If your going for a 22, Might look at a magnum (2200 fps), Since they have both rifle and pistol and enough power take up to a deer,
Yeah I know not suppose to. But this is a SHTF scenario right. or maybe a .17hmr at 2550-3000 ft per sec.
Yeah I know not suppose to. But this is a SHTF scenario right. or maybe a .17hmr at 2550-3000 ft per sec.
I can keep it to pistol, PCC, and maybe a shotty with only two calibers amongst them. All my pistols use 9mm and I have two PCC's in 9mm.
That isn't to say that I don't own AR's and AK's for fun & games. BUT if I have to bug out, the ability to pack 9mm and cover 10 weapons is a definite advantage.
Yes we do headshots at 200 yards with an AR in 9mm that has an 8" barrel and a red dot. We even slap a 10x scope on for shits n giggles and get 4-6" groups at 200 yards. SHTF you aren't sniping MOA groups at 200 yards on moving targets unless you have way more combat experience.
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Think I may be just a bit over the limit. 
I was merely pointing out one of the many obscure + asinine laws we have here in this great state
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Old info, no longer valid.
Pearls of wisdom.
Not true.
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I'm not arguing that you can or can't make such a shot with your 9mm AR, but why would intentionally cripple your shoulder fired weapon by not shooting a rifle cartridge out of it? What kind of numbers is 9mm pulling at 200 yards that make it competitive with 5.56? Never mind things like barrier penetration and bad guys wearing armor.
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So we are all wrong. What is the correct answer?
Lip
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Seriously Len: Feel free to replace the wrong old info with the correct new info.
Ed, I think it depends if you base your loadout on worse case scenario or on most likely scenario. You need to balance what you can reasonably carry against your needs. If you can reasonably carry 500 rounds then wouldn't it make sense to be able to use all of them in everything you carry?
I've posted it numerous times.
Websites that people like to quote here rarely, if ever get updated. The current correct info can be found here, the changes were effective 1/1/15.
https://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/271760-MA-Ammo-Components-Storage-CMR-2015
That's why I posted that sticky thread to give you folks the right info. Most here never search the forum for anything and then keep posting old or bad info.
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While I agree that jerking off to the EOTWAWKI is lame, I am one to employ the best and most effective tool I have to get the job done. If I am going to go through the added difficulty of lugging around a rifle and it's associated equipment, I am going to make sure it is the most capable rifle practical. IMO, a 9mm AR is far less capable then a 5.56 gun of similar dimensions, and since we are talking about likely scenarios, I would rather have 150 rounds of 5.56 then 500 rounds of 9mm.
Yeah Len you need to take a deep breath because your sticky matches what I posted.
10,000 rounds center fire without permit
50,000 rounds centerfire with permit.
I don't understand your consternation that this is "old info".
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I stock ammo, but by some standards people are throwing up here i guess i would be a joke. Im not by any means saying i wouldn't love to have 50,000 rounds of 5.56 stored in my basement, but dont put storing ammo above consistent training on your priorities list. Too many of the "I keep 50,000 rounds of ammo in my basement for shtf" types, would take about half of that ammo to hit a IPSC target at 50 yards.
IMHO in the standard "SHTF" prepper-porn unrealistic scenario, the guy who shot 50,000 rounds a year training prior to "SHTF" is going to be much, much, better off than the guy who hoarded 50,000 rounds in his basement "just in case the SHTF", as a matter of fact I'm willing to bet the guy who shot 50,000 a year, but always kept say, 1,000-10,000 in reserve for juuuust in case TEOTWAWKI, or more realistically, there was another ammo shortage, will quite easily live quite comfortably off the other guy's ammo if he needed to.
Barter/trade/arming your own army aside, what fantasy situation do you find yourself firing 50,000 rounds of ammo, or even 1,000 rounds of ammo, in one direction without some coming in the opposite direction? put down the prepper novels and be realistic. Unless you are consistently training, you are just hoarding stuff the the faster guy.
IMHO in the standard "SHTF" prepper-porn unrealistic scenario, the guy who shot 50,000 rounds a year training prior to "SHTF" is going to be much, much, better off than the guy who hoarded 50,000 rounds in his basement "just in case the SHTF", as a matter of fact I'm willing to bet the guy who shot 50,000 a year, but always kept say, 1,000-10,000 in reserve for juuuust in case TEOTWAWKI, or more realistically, there was another ammo shortage, will quite easily live quite comfortably off the other guy's ammo if he needed to.
Barter/trade/arming your own army aside, what fantasy situation do you find yourself firing 50,000 rounds of ammo, or even 1,000 rounds of ammo, in one direction without some coming in the opposite direction? put down the prepper novels and be realistic. Unless you are consistently training, you are just hoarding stuff the the faster guy.
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