Hell's Angels raided in California

[Coda]

a thread about hells angles.

"copyright HAMC"

You either need to get you eyes checked, learn how to use a zoom feature or understand what HAMC stands for. If you figure that out then maybe we can go on to what 81 stands for.

Yea, 4 years ago but still 30 bucks. I happened to hold onto that ticket.

But I have an extra 2024 calendar if you want it.

 

[Roadglide]

View: https://youtu.be/V1hfwaFxZjw?si=iOI2_tzhmhX6Wes6

Interesting take. Especially the 3:45 mark where he referenced gun owners

 

[Roadglide]

"copyright HAMC"

You either need to get you eyes checked, learn how to use a zoom feature or understand what HAMC stands for. If you figure that out then maybe we can go on to what 81 stands for.

Yea, 4 years ago but still 30 bucks. I happened to hold onto that ticket.

But I have an extra 2024 calendar if you want it.



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Great parties. Always loved the run to the rock.

 

[bigbravehog]

I dealt with a bunch of them during my corrections career.

They were rarely a problem, they did their time quiet and you would never know their affiliation while they were inside, meaning they didn't throw the you know who I am bullshit out there.

Whether they are getting busted up or not I would absolutely not F'k with them, some of their hitters are absolute some of the toughest dudes out there, no joke

I've been involved in quite a few rides with HA and never had a problem. Most were friendly and approachable since we were all there for the same reason, but you don't want to mess with them

 

[Junior314]

Picture makes it look like everything is a toy.

 

[50wt]

whats with the red and white vests?

 

[VTski4x4]

My college ex's cousin was/is a member. I actually never met him until after we had broken up. He was dating a girl in my friend group and I had met him a few times (without the cut on) and thought he was a generally good dude. I was quite surprised when he sat down to have dinner with us, took his jacket off, and had his cut on. He hung around the group for a bit but moved on once they broke up. Met a few of his MC brothers - never any issues with them. They did chase a loud mouth kid out of the local Marblehead divebar one night, but that was on the kid, not them.

 

[jkelly1229]

If i got raided the gun picture would be better than that.. lame

 

[FalArAk]

"copyright HAMC"

You either need to get you eyes checked, learn how to use a zoom feature or understand what HAMC stands for. If you figure that out then maybe we can go on to what 81 stands for.

Yea, 4 years ago but still 30 bucks. I happened to hold onto that ticket.

But I have an extra 2024 calendar if you want it.



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Low key bragging about supporting a criminal org, you do you.

 

[chris_1001]

The vests may be evidence to prove specific individuals were members of the group to be included in collective punishment, rather than non-members.

Hope we don’t get jammed up for the NES Zombie Shirts here if 2-5 of us are in the same room…

ETA: Love to see the arsenal pic if we do!!!

BTW: WE NEED A NEW NES LOGO SHIRT GB!

I’ve met some HA and others. No issue if you are not a dick.

 

[Coda]

Low key bragging about supporting a criminal org, you do you.

Not bragging at all and they are not all criminals. wake TF up.

 

[In God We Trust]

They are pretty much criminals that do more drugs than they deal and beat each other’s girlfriend. For someone reason normal dudes are cucked by them. And Sons of Anarchy might be the gheyest tv show ever.

(FYI I’m a 5’8” male and ride a Honda Ruckus)

They are definitely people you should avoid. Getting mixed up the criminal world is a stupid decision, so I have a hard time thinking there are any people worth a shit in that (or any other 1%) club.

I met a guy once through my dad who was out on good terms from the club and while he treated me with respect and was a good dude at face value, I still wouldn’t invite him over for a cookout.

 

[Junior314]

Not bragging at all and they are not all criminals. wake TF up.

 

[1919FAN]

Meanwhile in Fall River.

 

[Agnotology]

Bull S##t........... You do not know the details of that or who was actually involved, but some do. And don't ever accuse me of supporting pedophiles.

Hold on, let me go dig up the donation drive the Springfield and Berkshire chapters put together to help with the legal costs for Adam Lee Hall on facebook. Had to use the wayback machine on the Berkshire Eagle to find his CP charges. Weird they deleted their own story.

It's now a private group, and I nuked my FB ages ago. Someone else can dig it up if they desire and have access the page.

I remember bumping into a guy talking up how great the Berkshire chapter is. When I asked him about the criminal charges, he told me how they aren't like that, they're all just dentists and lawyers and this and that. I showed the CP charges to Adam Hall, and suddenly didn't have anything to say. I then asked him if he was a hangaround, a prospect, or a member, and why he'd even talk about club activities and club members if he was. He left.

Does Adam Hall still have his colors? His patches? The answer is yes. Which means he's still a brother in arms. Which means selling CP is not outside the rules to Berkshire HAMC.

I don't deny they're are "good" people in HAMC and other MC's. Just none in Berkshire HAMC. It's just like Epstein's flight logs at this point. There is only one place for a man who sells CP, there's only one place for them, and HAMC has had 9 years to put him there, and hasn't.

Berkshire 81, and to a lesser degree Springfield HAMC, supports pedo's and child porn, and if you support them, you do too. Sorry sunshine, hurting kids is a hard line for me, and used to be a hard line for HAMC. You are trying to saying you support NAMBLA but don't support pedos. You couldn't even squeak out a "f*** Adam Lee Hall", nevermind the witness intimidation, assault, and subsequent murder of the guy who was testifying, plus his innocent roommate and a poor guy who was just visiting some friends.

unless you are saying he is completely innocent and a dindunuffin?

 

[Roadglide]

Hold on, let me go dig up the donation drive the Springfield and Berkshire chapters put together to help with the legal costs for Adam Lee Hall on facebook. Had to use the wayback machine on the Berkshire Eagle to find his CP charges. Weird they deleted their own story.

It's now a private group, and I nuked my FB ages ago. Someone else can dig it up if they desire and have access the page.

I remember bumping into a guy talking up how great the Berkshire chapter is. When I asked him about the criminal charges, he told me how they aren't like that, they're all just dentists and lawyers and this and that. I showed the CP charges to Adam Hall, and suddenly didn't have anything to say. I then asked him if he was a hangaround, a prospect, or a member, and why he'd even talk about club activities and club members if he was. He left.

Does Adam Hall still have his colors? His patches? The answer is yes. Which means he's still a brother in arms. Which means selling CP is not outside the rules to Berkshire HAMC.

I don't deny they're are "good" people in HAMC and other MC's. Just none in Berkshire HAMC. It's just like Epstein's flight logs at this point. There is only one place for a man who sells CP, there's only one place for them, and HAMC has had 9 years to put him there, and hasn't.

Berkshire 81, and to a lesser degree Springfield HAMC, supports pedo's and child porn, and if you support them, you do too. Sorry sunshine, hurting kids is a hard line for me, and used to be a hard line for HAMC. You are trying to saying you support NAMBLA but don't support pedos. You couldn't even squeak out a "f*** Adam Lee Hall".

unless you are saying he is completely innocent and a dindunuffin?

Can you provide a link to a conviction for what you are claiming.

 

[Agnotology]

Can you provide a link to a conviction for what you are claiming.

No, I can't. I can link the charges he was convicted for, and sadly the CP ones I can't find any further details on because all the hits involve him being found guilty for the triple homicide. What opened the case for the homicides was him getting the CP charges.

you can also wayback machine the Berkshire Eagle's deleted article as well. It shows in search results but not the article anymore.

Government witness poised to testify against a member of the Hells Angels goes missing; authorities consider possibility of 'foul play'

Berkshire County authorities haven't linked a Hells Angel under felony indictment to a missing Pittsfield man scheduled to testify against him in court, but they are considering the possibility of foul play in the disappearance of the witness and two others.

www.masslive.com

 

[Taipan01]

Would have been nice to have given some bit recognition to Niemöller as to the 3:45 mark reference.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

 

[67ray]

Nothing but respect was shown by all, it's not like the old days, many members now days are doctors, lawyers, full time workers, etc. They are normal people who joined the club for whatever reason they chose, they are nothing to be afraid of unless your into f***ing with them.

Wut? Many doctors & lawyers? Don't think so

 

[Roadglide]

No, I can't. I can link the charges he was convicted for, and sadly the CP ones I can't find any further details on because all the hits involve him being found guilty for the triple homicide. What opened the case for the homicides was him getting the CP charges.

you can also wayback machine the Berkshire Eagle's deleted article as well. It shows in search results but not the article anymore.

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Government witness poised to testify against a member of the Hells Angels goes missing; authorities consider possibility of 'foul play'

Berkshire County authorities haven't linked a Hells Angel under felony indictment to a missing Pittsfield man scheduled to testify against him in court, but they are considering the possibility of foul play in the disappearance of the witness and two others.

www.masslive.com

Ok here’s the deal. I’m familiar with this case and you dont have to convince me Hall is a bad guy. But I would be careful throwing around allegations before people have had their day in court. And I wouldn’t trust the Berkshire Eagle as a credible source of information.

 

[Roadglide]

Would have been nice to have given some bit recognition to Niemöller as to the 3:45 mark reference.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

Message still applies no matter who said it. Stop thinking we are all separate and that we won’t all go down together.

 

[Agnotology]

Ok here’s the deal. I’m familiar with this case and you dont have to convince me Hall is a bad guy. But I would be careful throwing around allegations before people have had their day in court.

He had his day in court. And if you are familiar with Berkshire HA, like you are implying you are, you know that group was tighter knit than the average HAMC chapter, which is saying something. Especially in the time frames we are talking about. There is no way he was selling CP unbeknownst to everyone else. I can forgive the support at first, maintaining appearances of brotherhood, and maybe some misguided and misplaced trust for others not as close in. But there is no one from Williamstown to Mt Washington to Westfield unfamiliar with this case, and he is still a member. That is gross.

 

[tuna]

I would use a hazmat team to confiscate their vests. Regardless of what you think of these folks, it is utterly absurdist behavior to take their clothes.

Also, typo in headline, should be Angels, not “angles.”

 

[Roadglide]

He had his day in court. And if you are familiar with Berkshire HA, like you are implying you are, you know that group was tighter knit than the average HAMC chapter, which is saying something. Especially in the time frames we are talking about. There is no way he was selling CP unbeknownst to everyone else. I can forgive the support at first, maintaining appearances of brotherhood, and maybe some misguided and misplaced trust for others not as close in. But there is no one from Williamstown to Mt Washington to Westfield unfamiliar with this case.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I said I was familiar with the case. As in I read about it. He was convicted of murder. You are claiming he did something else that he hasn’t had his day in court for. You are making nothing more than allegations. You live in the court of public opinion. Enough said.

 

[Taipan01]

Message still applies no matter who said it. Stop thinking we are all separate and that we won’t all go down together.

Glad you read something into it that I didn't suggest. Reading is fundamental. By the by:

We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.

– Benjamin Franklin

 

[Coda]

Ok here’s the deal. I’m familiar with this case and you dont have to convince me Hall is a bad guy. But I would be careful throwing around allegations before people have had their day in court. And I wouldn’t trust the Berkshire Eagle as a credible source of information.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I said I was familiar with the case. As in I read about it. He was convicted of murder. You are claiming he did something else that he hasn’t had his day in court for. You are making nothing more than allegations. You live in the court of public opinion. Enough said.

Not only does he like to put words in someone's mouth, but if you associate with Berkshire 81 in any way then he calls you a pedophile.

He gets his knowledge from rumors, accusations and the Berkshire eagle, so that is why he doesn't know what he is talking about. But calling someone a pedophile with nothing to back it up is not cool.

 

[Roadglide]

Glad you read something into it that I didn't suggest. Reading is fundamental. By the by:

We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.

– Benjamin Franklin

The second part wasn’t meant to suggest you said anything. It was a quote the guy in the video made and was trying to relate it to the bigger picture. I should have wrote my statement better

 

[Roadglide]

Not only does he like to put words in someone's mouth, but if you associate with Berkshire 81 in any way then he calls you a pedophile.

He gets his knowledge from rumors, accusations and the Berkshire eagle, so that is why he doesn't know what he is talking about. But calling someone a pedophile with nothing to back it up is not cool.

Exactly. Beat me to it. Not a fan of putting people on ignore and won’t do it to him but I’ll take anything he says going forward with a grain of salt.

 

[Agnotology]

Stop putting words in my mouth. I said I was familiar with the case. As in I read about it. He was convicted of murder. You are claiming he did something else that he hasn’t had his day in court for. You are making nothing more than allegations. You live in the court of public opinion. Enough said.

I didn't put words in your mouth. I said you were implying. If I was wrong in what I thought was being implied, I accept that and apologize.

I will go digging for the charges in question, and where they currently stand.

 

[Coda]

Exactly. Beat me to it. Not a fan of putting people on ignore and won’t do it to him but I’ll take anything he says going forward with a grain of salt.

I was at least willing to listen to his BS before the pedophile accusation directed my way.

I have personal reasons to find that very upsetting but I am not going to talk about it here.