Good Muzzle Brake for AR-15

SubieGuy4 · May 14, 2014

Just finished my first AR build. Gun works great and I put the Daniel Defense Muzzle Climb Mitigator on it. The DD brake is amazing at eliminating recoil. All you feel is a jolt as the bolt cycles and experience no rearward recoil at all. The issue is that they over-compensated it for resisting muzzle rise and it causes a 1/2" muzzle dip. Not a fan of this so I'm trying to find another brake that works well. I'm shocked at how little there is in the way of real comparisons or reviews of brakes. It seems a lot of people write them off as unnecessary novelties and don't give them much attention. After using the DD brake I have I'm convinced they're one of the most useful upgrades for an AR.

I'm wondering if anyone has experience or links to resources that can shed some light on which brakes are best. Don't care all that much about muzzle flash and definitely don't care about muzzle blast. Just looking for a brake that eliminates most rearward recoil and keeps the muzzle totally flat.

ColdDayInHell · May 14, 2014

I can't say enough good things about my Rainier XTC compensator. Shoot one and you'll be amazed at how well it keeps the muzzle down.

SubieGuy4 · May 14, 2014

ColdDayInHell said:
I can't say enough good things about my Rainier XTC compensator. Shoot one and you'll be amazed at how well it keeps the muzzle down.

Wow! Done and done! Just checked out a bunch of videos of this including one from a YouTuber whose opinion I really respect. Looks like it's really multi-talented and effective. Going to pick one up today.

wahsben · May 14, 2014

PWS FSC 556 is one you might want to take a look at too.

Supermoto · May 14, 2014

Open up the exit hole on the DD. It will get rid of the dip

Yippee-ki-yay · May 14, 2014

SubieGuy4 said:
Wow! Done and done! Just checked out a bunch of videos of this including one from a YouTuber whose opinion I really respect. Looks like it's really multi-talented and effective. Going to pick one up today.

What video/channel did you view?

SubieGuy4 · May 14, 2014

Supermoto said:
Open up the exit hole on the DD. It will get rid of the dip

What exit hole are you referring to?

Looks like the Rainier XTC is no longer in stock anywhere in black. Looks like the black one is gone from their site and only the silver colored model remains. As best I can tell they've stopped selling the black one but have kept the silver one? Idiots... Completely intolerable stupidity, discontinuing the model in the color that everyone's gun is but keeping the silver one on the shelves. Not sure what to get now. Doesn't seem like any others are quite as good at covering every role.

Supermoto · May 14, 2014

SubieGuy4 said:
What exit hole are you referring to?

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The one the bullet goes out of.
Just get a SJC titan. Best commercial brake available

SubieGuy4 · May 14, 2014

Supermoto said:
The one the bullet goes out of.
Just get a SJC titan. Best commercial brake available

Oh lol. Don't think so... That would also reduce the effect of the side ports, which is the purpose of having the brake.

Supermoto · May 14, 2014

SubieGuy4 said:
Oh lol. Don't think so... That would also reduce the effect of the side ports, which is the purpose of having the brake.

I have the same brake, that is how you fix the dip

SubieGuy4 · May 14, 2014

Supermoto said:
I have the same brake, that is how you fix the dip

Not a fan of drilling on it without the right tools. I don't have a drill press or anything.

Really liked the look of the Rainier XTC but that's apparently out. The Rainier RAC seems like its replacement but there isn't a single review of video out there demonstrating it in action.

mikelawtown · May 14, 2014

I have to say that my TROY Mid Evil Keeps things at Bay.

Deleted member 12999 · May 14, 2014

SubieGuy4 said:
Wow! Done and done! Just checked out a bunch of videos of this including one from a YouTuber whose opinion I really respect. Looks like it's really multi-talented and effective. Going to pick one up today.

I have one as well. I'll pm you the video of me running it in class

KMM696 · May 18, 2014

Supermoto said:
Open up the exit hole on the DD. It will get rid of the dip

How much does it need to be opened up, or is this an individual rifle dependent kind of thing?

Knicks · May 18, 2014

SubieGuy4 said:
What exit hole are you referring to?

Looks like the Rainier XTC is no longer in stock anywhere in black. Looks like the black one is gone from their site and only the silver colored model remains. As best I can tell they've stopped selling the black one but have kept the silver one? Idiots... Completely intolerable stupidity, discontinuing the model in the color that everyone's gun is but keeping the silver one on the shelves. Not sure what to get now. Doesn't seem like any others are quite as good at covering every role.

The xtc may have been discontinued. Picked one up for 25 a few months back new from rainier.

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SubieGuy4 · May 18, 2014

Knicks said:
The xtc may have been discontinued. Picked one up for 25 a few months back new from rainier.

My a pretty sure it is. The black one isn't even on their site anymore. I ordered a matte stainless one for around $60. Maybe I'll get it Cerekoted or something.

Supermoto · May 18, 2014

KMM696 said:
How much does it need to be opened up, or is this an individual rifle dependent kind of thing?

going to be individual to the rifle and shooter.

mac1911 · May 18, 2014

Could this downward flip be a flinch not apparent due to lack of muzzle jump?... I love putting dummy rounds in any guns my friends shoot. Love to see them yank the muzzle downward on a dead round.....I have a flinch also and need to work on it all the time....

beaker · May 18, 2014

I am very impressed with the Griffen tactical comp. It is a great comp and it is significantly better at mitigating side blast. And a bargain for $90.

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SubieGuy4 · May 19, 2014

mac1911 said:
Could this downward flip be a flinch not apparent due to lack of muzzle jump?

Negative. Flinching isn't an issue for me with the AR. Only thing I still catch myself doing it with is my 12GA with 3" slugs. Downward push with brakes is a well documented occurrence. It seems to be less of a problem with a traditional stance and grip since the traditional grip does a poor job resisting muzzle rise. The modern grip and stance do a better job holding the muzzle down so a brake that has top vents for keeping the muzzle down can cause it to push down for those using a modern grip (which I do). In testing even the Rainier brake I just ordered has a small downward push but I'm confident it will be much less than my current one.

TOY539 · May 19, 2014

Hey does anyone have any experience with the Kineti-Tech Muzzle Brake with Sound Redirect.

http://www.kineti-tech.com/kineti-t...rect-with-13-16-x-16-threaded-sleeve-2-piece/

drgrant · May 19, 2014

wahsben said:
PWS FSC 556 is one you might want to take a look at too.

Except that it causes ear rape. The FSC will punch you in the nuts on every shot if its on an SBR. [laugh]

Artifact · May 19, 2014

Griffin Armament Tactical, a beefier BattleComp at 40-50% cheaper.

greenfar0608 · May 20, 2014

Here is a link I found when researching muzzle brake performance that had some pretty good information and comparisons. Obviously many other options out there but this helped me narrow down the choices when I was researching.

http://vuurwapenblog.com/2014/01/12/ar-15-muzzle-device-comparison/

SubieGuy4 · May 20, 2014

greenfar0608 said:
Here is a link I found when researching muzzle brake performance that had some pretty good information and comparisons. Obviously many other options out there but this helped me narrow down the choices when I was researching.

http://vuurwapenblog.com/2014/01/12/ar-15-muzzle-device-comparison/

Yep I used the same page in researching this.

I ended up buying the Rainier XTC. Had to get it in silver and tried painting it black with iffy results. Functionally it's great. Got it to the range yesterday. The muzzle stays flat and it does a nice job with recoil. Lot of muzzle blast but it seems the formula is that the more it resists recoil the louder it is, so I'm not complaining. Lot of flash but only to the left and right. None is directed upward. Nice brake/comp.

ACB84 · May 20, 2014

that actually looks like a pretty cool design. i wonder how it works

TOY539 said:
Hey does anyone have any experience with the Kineti-Tech Muzzle Brake with Sound Redirect.

http://www.kineti-tech.com/kineti-t...rect-with-13-16-x-16-threaded-sleeve-2-piece/

ewaybevinn · May 20, 2014

I have the Strike Industries Checkmate. Looks awesome and works even better.

7.62x39 · May 20, 2014

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/compensators/ar-15-miculek-comp-prod5573.aspx

StevieP · May 20, 2014

for a "tune-able" compensator, check out the effin-A comp. reasonably priced, and gets good reviews.

I put a Griffin Armament flash/comp on my rifle and like it fine.

bill o · May 20, 2014

mac1911 said:
Could this downward flip be a flinch not apparent due to lack of muzzle jump?... I love putting dummy rounds in any guns my friends shoot. Love to see them yank the muzzle downward on a dead round.....I have a flinch also and need to work on it all the time....

Can you distinguish between a true flinch and a post-ignition push, which happen a few hundredths of a second from each other? A flinch is revealed by where the bullet hits. The dummy round trick will do more harm than good when you try to "fix" a harmless post-ignition push.

Good Muzzle Brake for AR-15

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