Mike S
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I'm interested in knowing your thoughts on this, how is it the above mentioned legislators, who have been under Deval's guidance for over 6 years have been unsuccessful in passing any anti 2A legislation?
What's stopping them?
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I'm interested in knowing your thoughts on this, how is it the above mentioned legislators, who have been under Deval's guidance for over 6 years have been unsuccessful in passing any anti 2A legislation?
What's stopping them?
Comm2A
With an AG/EOPS/and Governors office completely out of control the ONLY remedy is via the courts.
'Asking' is going nowhere.
I wish you well in your game of chicken and can't blame you at all for wanting to move out. That said, unless your plans are concrete, I think it makes sense to pay the $30/year a GOAL membership costs.
I've talked to a number of reps and they respect Jim Wallace and say that GOAL does influence them.
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If I had to put my finger on one thing, I'd say its the decisions that have been handed down by the SCOTUS and that legislators are feeling more than a bit uneasy about their future actions. That may not be the whole of it but it certainly has had a great impact on it.
I also feel that they recognize that their actions may have very dire personal consequences if they persist. Society is NOT getting more tolerant of dictatorial rulers, it is becoming less tolerant of them and if you haven't noticed, government has been upscaling their arms race with the public to extrordinary levels.
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My plans are concrete.
Mike S
NES Member
Who elects the judges in MA and does the MA SJC recognize the 2A as a civil right?
Don't misinterpret this as a knock on Comm2A, it's not at all, just saying that going before a judge in this state with reasonable expectation of a fair hearing is a roll of the dice at best.
They're either incompetent, afraid of the court cases involved, or afraid of losing elections (not sure why in MA). If put on the table, you don't think the dems (or R's even!) in MA would at least WANT to vote in anything anti-gun in a second?
The reason no one joins is because they are a disorganized group with a poor strategy who up until very recently, were nothing more than a way for a select group of FUDDs to line their pockets.
That can be fixed without money.
Once they address their strategy and PR issues the money will flow in. They are going about things completely backwards.
Is there any significant push back to them on Glidden's email list (or whatever it's called)? Or, are any participants joining them in their view? I am wondering if they are influencing anyone or just mouthing an opinion that is being ignored.
I hope they do. Then I will send them a check.
Show me something first before you ask me to open my wallet.
I'm not at liberty to discuss what goes on on Glidden's eList. That's the rules that Ron set in place and if found violating them, that person will be permanently removed from Ron's eList. With that said I can tell you that Ron does not want his eList used for debating issues or political discussion (even about policies), so you can interpret that as you may. As much as there are probably ~700 members of his eList, just like here on NES, a very small minority are active on that eList. Nobody really knows what all the others are thinking or doing with the information posted there.
Although I ponied up a couple of new memberships after newtown to the NRA, I feel they have abandonded us in MA.
If they represented us back when Martha started messing with us,
The anti's would not have gained so much traction, now we are up to our ass in alligators.
That's not what I'd prefer. There's already more than enough to do with the unconstitutional and irrational laws we have on the books now. We don't need the legislature passing more crap that just so we can clog the courts up even more. Ideally Comm2A is working to put itself out of business and to become irrelevant. Sadly, we're not going to become Wyoming or Vermont anytime soon.
GOAL's letter was a great idea and it is important they continue to call this crap out. The EOPSS's creative interpretation of "lawfully possessed" is utterly immaterial until they become stupid enough to try an prosecute someone for possessing a legal pre-ban item that doesn't fit the EOPSS definition. At that point there's an actual harm and controversy that can be addressed by a court. Until then calling attention to this nonsense may prevent EOPSS from making this stuff up in the future.
The NRA hasn't abandoned us at all. The NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund has helped Comm2A on several projects now. We have a very good relationship with them and they're worth of your support. The CRDF is quieter and not as in-your-face as ILA which wisely realizes they won't get much traction on Beacon Hill
No, it is a restricted list. Excerpt from Ron's Book (emphasis/bolding/underlining is exactly as it appears in the book):
We are already living with every new federal gun proposal. Background checks w/registry, AWB, 10rd mags, can't buy a glock, kimber, etc (which is the worst part). No one in the NRA is standing up for my rights in Mass. I could care less about a federal registry. I'm already on one in Mass. And what has GOAL done about any of this? Sorry, but until we elect a conservative Governor and state gov't none of this matters to us. We are clearly outnumbered when Elizabeth Warren is elected with absolutely NO political experience.
That was my point,ma, nj.,ny and cal. Were abandoned by the NRA ,and th joke was "move to a free state" . Now the cancer has spread to a lot of states, and has finally gotten their limited attention.
That may be, but just because they ignored our States before, doesn't mean we should ignore the Federal level now. That's foolish, and is merely capitulation. Considering the number of laws already on the books, we as a people can never give up additional ground, wherever it may be.
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