dcmdon
NES Member
I agree. There's no downside to them keeping it up. Its not like they can be held accountable.
Better for them to just keep the fear uncertainty and doubt up among new and poorly informed gun owners.
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GOAL asks Governor to correct EOPS on Large Cap Mags.
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I agree. There's no downside to them keeping it up. Its not like they can be held accountable.
Better for them to just keep the fear uncertainty and doubt up among new and poorly informed gun owners.
CrackPot
NES Member
If I was planning some type of suit in federal court showing that the MA .gov was unable to make and follow their own laws, maybe this letter makes sense. Get them on record failing to correct their own crap even when put on notice it was crap.
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GOAL's charter is NOT to file lawsuits but to seek legislative action. So I doubt that this was the motivation.
dcmdon
NES Member
That seems to be more of a Com2A thing.
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Finalygotabeltfed
GOAL needs to change their charter, they might see a boon to their membership if they actually started doing something.
Because most gun owners are lazy apathetic asses who don't care, won't get off their ass to write a letter or phone call, but will bitch forever...... I know many. They give me a hard time about me wasting my time participating. There are probably a buttload of NES members from mass who are not goal members.
I didn't just join, I donated extra money. My wife who has her own law practice offered her help pro-bono. And we've even met with legislators. If we all did this, this would be over with. But of our minority, less than 8% is active in preserving their own rights
I disagree. I make what I believe to be an informed decision not to give them money.
I'll pony up for Comm2A, NES, or anyplace else I feel I, and the firearms community, get a return on that investment. I can't for the life of me figure out what GOAL does aside from writing letters that get no responses or results.
Comm2A is a public charity. They file lawsuits to defend civil rights. A public charity is forbidden from lobbying. This is why donations to Comm2A are tax deductible.
GOAL is, among other things, a lobbying organization. One of their main purposes is to influence legislation. As such, they cannot be a public charity and contributions to them are not tax deductible because they are used to influence legislation.
This is the reason why GOAL and Comm2A are complimentary but also necessarily separate.
Not anymore. That money goes to Comm2A as well.
If the NRA was appropriately using the money I used to give them we may not be in the mess we are on the Fed level.
I understand that. But GOAL's "influence" can be quantified. It is exactly zero. They cannot get responses to their letters to the AG, EOPS, or Governor.
So when it comes time to open the checkbook do I give to the group who can get things done via the courts or the group who no one listens to?
If all 300k licensed gun owners in MA were GOAL members, they'd have that influence. In fact, they'd be a higher % of MA voters than NRA members are nationally. For a lobbying organization, membership numbers mean a lot.
Jbarila
NES Member
Exactly!
Mike S
NES Member
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Mike S
NES Member
Yes, it is, and he's passed no anti-2A legislation since then.
The only thing his administration has accomplished is the backdoor BS through EOPS. Which is why GOAL is on them about their newest magazine "opinion".
If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
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Finalygotabeltfed
Just because they blame somebody doesn't make it so. I know its a long shot in this state but did it ever occur to you that someone in the legislature might have actually looked at what they were doing and thought about the long term consequenses of their actions?
Government officials who don't get their way ALWAYS lay the blame on whomever is most convenient and the easiest to villify in the eyes of an ignorant public. Doing this with gun owners in Massachusetts is like shooting fish in a barrel for them.
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Finalygotabeltfed
Could have been a drunk on a barstool one night somewhere when one of them was out having a beer or having dinner or a member of their golfing foursome or a family member.
If you are trying to convince me of GOAL's significance, please, please please, save your breathe.
The beautiful people will never listen to the fact based logical working class people...
ntomsw
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Finalygotabeltfed
Denying the state every penny that I possibly can, Defying their foolish laws wherever and whenever I deem it appropriate, and ultimately voting with my feet to move away from the unending oppression being inflicted by the ignorant elitist legislature in this state.
Try it sometime, you might like it.
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