Glock Hearing - Can you attend?

dhuze · Oct 20, 2016

GooseManCometh said:
I shoot at least one competition every weekend all with a Glock. I should be good to go right?

You did not have "police" training so you get nothing. No soup for you. You come back one year.

JZ1018 · Oct 21, 2016

Here's a thought about the LCI. As an instructor that teaches the LTC class, no where do I teach to check the "Loaded Chamber Indicator" in order to make sure the gun is unloaded. The curriculum I teach is certified by the Mass State Police. If the LCI is a vital part of the gun, would not the state police require going over its use in classes for the LTC. Since the MSP don't require instruction about the use of the LCI, doesn't that mean that the LCI is not necessarily a vital part of the gun?

Rick1987 · Oct 21, 2016

JZ1018 said:
Here's a thought about the LCI. As an instructor that teaches the LTC class, no where do I teach to check the "Loaded Chamber Indicator" in order to make sure the gun is unloaded. The curriculum I teach is certified by the Mass State Police. If the LCI is a vital part of the gun, would not the state police require going over its use in classes for the LTC. Since the MSP don't require instruction about the use of the LCI, doesn't that mean that the LCI is not necessarily a vital part of the gun?

I explain the LCI in my classes. I show how it makes checking to see if the gun is loaded confusing. Then I explain to check if it's loaded, RACK THE SLIDE TO THE REAR! Theirs your LCI!

JZ1018 · Oct 21, 2016

Rick1987 said:
I explain the LCI in my classes. I show how it makes checking to see if the gun is loaded confusing. Then I explain to check if it's loaded, RACK THE SLIDE TO THE REAR! Theirs your LCI!

I do mention that the LCI is a mechanical device and like any mechanical device, it can fail, just like a safety. To trust your life on it would be foolish

Maui5150 · Oct 21, 2016

JZ1018 said:
I do mention that the LCI is a mechanical device and like any mechanical device, it can fail, just like a safety. To trust your life on it would be foolish

^^^ This

thorin · Oct 21, 2016

Unless the original purchaser filled out a rebate card or something, how in the world would the Glock company know who owned Glock pistols anyways?

babygorilla · Oct 21, 2016

thorin said:
Unless the original purchaser filled out a rebate card or something, how in the world would the Glock company know who owned Glock pistols anyways?

THEY wouldn't. The state would. That is part if the idiocy behind this whole thing.

Is it time to flush the toilet yet and reboot this state?

DarthRevan · Oct 21, 2016

Keep dreaming.

knfmn · Oct 21, 2016

Rick1987 said:
I explain the LCI in my classes. I show how it makes checking to see if the gun is loaded confusing. Then I explain to check if it's loaded, DROP THE MAGAZINE AND THEN RACK THE SLIDE TO THE REAR BEFORE VISUALLY AND PHYSICALLY INSPECTING THE CHAMBER TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR! Theirs your LCI!

FIFY

Cuz · Oct 21, 2016

I'm confused, exactly what records does the MA AG want from Glock???

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iofneedle · Oct 21, 2016

Cuz said:
I'm confused, exactly what records does the MA AG want from Glock???

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I was at the hearing and it certainly sounded like the AG wanted all customer records...all complaints...all warranty work...etc

Drix · Oct 21, 2016

thorin said:
Unless the original purchaser filled out a rebate card or something, how in the world would the Glock company know who owned Glock pistols anyways?

In addition to not knowing, there is now precedent for NOT actually filling out your warranty card again.

LoginName · Oct 21, 2016

Cuz said:
I'm confused, exactly what records does the MA AG want from Glock???

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Good write up here...

"There are scores of public reports about defects involving firearms, including accidental firing, misfiring, overheating problems and low 'trigger pull' leading to horrific stories of accidental shootings by children," Gonzalez said. "As the chief law enforcement office in Massachusetts, we are seeking that information to better inform our residents and to protect them from any safety or manufacturing issues with guns sold here."

A copy of Healey's March 2016 demand for documents from the gun manufacturers, which was included in court filings, details 10 types of documents related to gun safety. The request covers all gun sales by the manufacturers, not only sales made in Massachusetts.

The documents show that Healey asked for records of complaints relating to the safety of firearms and ammunition or to accidental discharges, and for information on how the companies responded to those complaints. She asked for information about recalls of guns and ammunition, a list of all guns being produced as of this January, information about safety features and testing and documents about advertising, marketing and warranties.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/09/gun_manufacturers_challenge_in.html

Drix · Oct 21, 2016

"There are scores of public reports about defects involving firearms, including accidental firing, misfiring, overheating problems and low 'trigger pull' leading to horrific stories of accidental shootings by children," Gonzalez said. "As the chief law enforcement office in Massachusetts, we are seeking that information to better inform our residents and to protect them from any safety or manufacturing issues with guns sold here."

I actually went looking for the NY incedent that was mentioned in the case and couldn't find it. Off memory, I believe the defective slide incident in Texas was with their brand new nobody else had it yet rollout of a new firearm wasn't it?

Dadstoys · Oct 21, 2016

She's fishing for a list of gun owners that they might not currently have in the system.
That's what she's doing , nothing more.
They day she gives two shits about the "Safety" of anyone in this state I'll lace up my skates in hell.
Hey Maura, how many sex offenders roaming the streets have reoffended in the last month or so now?
It's getting hard to keep a tally.

dhuze · Oct 21, 2016

Drix said:
In addition to not knowing, there is now precedent for NOT actually filling out your warranty card again.

Glock has an incentive TO fill out the warranty card. Win a 30th anniversary Glock

http://https://us.glock.com/customer-service/glock-warranty-form

Dadstoys said:
She's fishing for a list of gun owners that they might not currently have in the system.
That's what she's doing , nothing more.
They day she gives two shits about the "Safety" of anyone in this state I'll lace up my skates in hell.
Hey Maura, how many sex offenders roaming the streets have reoffended in the last month or so now?
It's getting hard to keep a tally.

She is looking for information for if Hillary wins and she can get an appointment to Eric Holders AG position and hunt down all Glock owners.

To sum it up **** You Healey!

Drix · Oct 21, 2016

dhuze said:
Glock has an incentive TO fill out the warranty card. Win a 30th anniversary Glock

Great, I can win a gun I can never take possession of. Still not going to submit that card.

arcticzr600 · Oct 21, 2016

Drix said:
Great, I can win a gun I can never take possession of. Still not going to submit that card.

Submit one with Healys name on it?

StevieP · Oct 23, 2016

JZ1018 said:
Here's a thought about the LCI. As an instructor that teaches the LTC class, no where do I teach to check the "Loaded Chamber Indicator" in order to make sure the gun is unloaded. The curriculum I teach is certified by the Mass State Police. If the LCI is a vital part of the gun, would not the state police require going over its use in classes for the LTC. Since the MSP don't require instruction about the use of the LCI, doesn't that mean that the LCI is not necessarily a vital part of the gun?

You're doing it wrong. It's there to tell you if it's LOADED, not the other way around. "Loaded Chamber Indicator." It's right there in the name!

Silly goose.

(/sarc)

slap shot · Oct 23, 2016

Just ranting here but, It's always effing loaded! wtf!

Drix · Oct 23, 2016

I just did the math and wanted to circle around. AGO told the judge bpd puts in 800 hours of training to use their glocks- That's hands on 40h a day for 20 weeks. Shouldn't that be perjury? There's no ****ing way bpd handles their firearms that long.

**Edit** Good call, that's 80 hours, the LEO academy in Boston is 800 hours- got them mixed up.

esamjj · Oct 23, 2016

80 hours not 800

tripper · Oct 23, 2016

Most acadamys are 40 hrs, classroom and range combined, some states are 50 hrs.

terraformer · Oct 23, 2016

tripper said:
Most acadamys are 40 hrs, classroom and range combined, some states are 50 hrs.

And believe me, most of the 40, 50 or 80 hrs is not on actual gun handling, but other issues of use of force, etc.

Knuckle Dragger · Oct 25, 2016

The snark in me wants to respond: "The BPD need 80 of instruction on how not to have an accident with their unsafe Glocks?"

swatgig · Oct 25, 2016

Knuckle Dragger said:
The snark in me wants to respond: "The BPD need 80 of instruction on how not to have an accident with their unsafe Glocks?"

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Drunder40 · Oct 25, 2016

Dadstoys said:
She's fishing for a list of gun owners that they might not currently have in the system.
That's what she's doing , nothing more.
They day she gives two shits about the "Safety" of anyone in this state I'll lace up my skates in hell.
Hey Maura, how many sex offenders roaming the streets have reoffended in the last month or so now?
It's getting hard to keep a tally.

I agree 100% with the above.. This is the only reason why she does tings like this.. She thinks people are stupid.. I can see right through all her crap.

Rob Boudrie · Oct 27, 2016

Thanks to everyone who showed up. I am certain that Glock noticed and appreciates the support.

Glockster30 · Oct 27, 2016

Rob Boudrie said:
Thanks to everyone who showed up. I am certain that Glock noticed and appreciates the support.

It would nice of them to hand out free Glocks to show their gratitude. [laugh]

Drix · Oct 27, 2016

Glockster30 said:
It would nice of them to hand out free Glocks to show their gratitude.

Going to have to be chocolate at this point. Though, knowing AGO she'll take that from me too citing a choking hazard.

Glock Hearing - Can you attend?

dhuze

JZ1018

Rick1987

JZ1018

Maui5150

Banned

thorin

babygorilla

DarthRevan

knfmn

Cuz

iofneedle

Drix

LoginName

Drix

Dadstoys

dhuze

Drix

arcticzr600

StevieP

slap shot

Drix

esamjj

tripper

terraformer

Knuckle Dragger

swatgig

Drunder40

Rob Boudrie

Glockster30

Drix

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