I think 06LemansC6 meant the bar...
Gotcha, my bad.
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I think 06LemansC6 meant the bar...
Most cops have policies against hot pursuit based on severity of the offense. Has doorbell ringing risen to the top of the list?
Paranoid much?? JC where the hell do you live compton? I'm sorry but, ya this kid shouldnt have been pranking people but what next manhunts and hangings for a kid who prank calls someone...... "is your refrigerator running....."
If I recall BigRed is having problems with his neighbor douchebags doing the same to him, next time should he chase them and shoot them? I can promise he would be blasted here. So please just because some kid did something dumb does not warrant his murder, by any stretch.
Something certainly doesn't add up here but If that were me and some guy in his undies and slippers came and chased me down with a gun you could bet I would "fight back". This cop should have NEVER pursued him for knocking and running. Gimme a break....... This smells like crap all around.
I would probably arm myself and depending on the neighborhood and history of events call the PD but certainly would not get in my car and go after him. Just sounds a little over zealous to me
I don't think the cop should ever have left his house. Why didn't he do what any of us would have done and simply reported it to police?
HOLY SHIT! Are you for real?I don't think the cop should ever have left his house. Why didn't he do what any of us would have done and simply reported it to police?
He IS THE POLICE!
UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE. Some of you actually want a cop who witnesses a crime, any crime, in his neighborhood to just call 911 and sit in his couch like a pussy? I'd want him FIRED if he did just that.
Sheriff's officials say they have an eyewitness who saw what happened and corroborated the deputy's version of events, though they did not release that person's name.
Verdoni always parked his patrol car in front of his home, and it had recently been vandalized.
A neighbor said that Verdoni and his wife recently had a baby, and that there had been break-ins in the neighborhood.
Sure a "guy with a gun" in a marked cruiser... from the article...Assuming the evidence supports the LEOs statement, he is justified in shooting him. My thought was that going after him for a ring and run armed wasn't really necessary. He could have called for a uniformed officer. Another thing you have to think of, the guy ran out in shorts and a t-shirt....so I'm guessing no holster or badge? That being the case, he was a guy with a gun.
Deputy Carlos Verdoni, wearing shorts, a T-shirt and sandals, grabbed his gun and got into his squad car to find them -- a pursuit the sheriff's office and police experts say was within his authority, even when off-duty.
Deputy Verdoni was at home with his family around midnight when the sheriff's office said two men rang the doorbell, then returned about an hour later and banged on the door.
The deputy got into his marked patrol car, located the two men one block away, and tried to take them into custody, according to Sheriff Tom Knight. The deputy then got into a tussle with one of the men.
"The subject was making efforts to remove the weapon, his duty weapon, from him [the deputy]," said Sheriff Knight. "At that time Deputy Verdoni continued to make commands to him and the altercation escalated, and Deputy Verdoni discharged his firearm two times, fatally injuring the subject."
Spann was pronounced dead at the scene, detectives say.
According to Sheriff Knight, there were witnesses who heard the deputy's verbal commands, "We have independent witnesses who saw the struggle, who saw the confrontation, heard the deputy's clear commands. We're confident these events are not in dispute at this time."
I think 06LemansC6 meant the bar...
No, your post smells like crap.
A police officer's job is to investigate crime. Ringing doorbells for no reason in the middle of the night as a prank falls right into "disturbance of the peace".
Sheriff's Deputies get paid to chase people who break laws and disturb the peace. When said peace disturber tries to grapple with a policeman, then the stakes have been raised to a whole nother level and not by the cop.
Last time I checked virtually all police officers are armed...so I'm not following your logic on that......All I was getting at was that, sure the kid did something stupid by ring and run, but to warrant chasing him down armed seems over the top.
In your post you mention "unanswered variables" that should be reason enough for the officer to to investigate this while "armed" (the horror)...Sure it may just have been a "ring n run" could just as well have been some one "casing" his house......Especially if this is just a case of prank and run...
...If that is the case and the kid did this knowing he was attacking an officer than yes story proves he is in the right. case closed. but...Did the officer identify himself as a cop? Sure he was in a cruiser however did he use his roof lights so the kid could tell it was a cop car? Or was he merely staring into blinding headlights, while a guy in shorts and sandals got out with a gun in hand? Sure there was a cruiser in the driveway but it's 1am and dark where was the car in relation to the front door? Even at the time he rang the doorbell, perhaps being that he was drunk and it was dark, the kid didn't see the cruiser at that point either?
Was the deputy uniformed or not? I tend to not follow commands from anyone out of uniform, even if the claim to be they Queen of England. Also if I am approached by a man with a gun shouting at me I'm going to assume the worst as well.
Then again, I don't go out drinking at the 'pub' and go knocking on people's doors at 1AM
wow unbelievable. Cop shoots kid over what started as a relatively harmless prank. It escalates to something far worse, kid dies, and I'm a moron for asking questions. Gotcha!
Was the deputy uniformed or not? I tend to not follow commands from anyone out of uniform, even if the claim to be they Queen of England. Also if I am approached by a man with a gun shouting at me I'm going to assume the worst as well.
Then again, I don't go out drinking at the 'pub' and go knocking on people's doors at 1AM
The story now states that he rang the doorbell and then returned an hour later and banged on the door. I'm less inclined now to believe it was a prank, but at the same time I don't think sandal-clad deputies should attempt to detain anyone with nothing more than a sidearm.
At this point I gotta call it a draw, stupid kid had his life ended and a LEO has to live with killing someone. You can spend all day speculating out of your fifth point of contact, but in the end those are the only facts that matter...