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Father in law wants to give me his rifle? i want to keep it leagal.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Martinilover, Dec 26, 2018.

  1. Martinilover

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    Ok So my father in law has a few rifles and pistols. He is an old timer and has had them for many years. We both live in MA but I am not sure his firearms have ever been registered with the State.
    Because he is in his mid 80s and going into an assisted living facility he wants to give them to me. I have my LTC in MA as well as a C&R (never used). How can I legally take ownership if these firearms? Do I just need to file a FA-10 for each of them? or do I even need to do that?

    Any advice would be appreciated.
     
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  2. one-eyed Jack

    one-eyed Jack Manufacturer Dealer NES Member

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    Thread # 1993 on this subject. Heading for 2000. Jack.
     
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  4. DecOFlaherty

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    What the hell, Work is slow today.

    Few answers that would help: How many long guns/ pistols? What are the models of the pistols?
    Regardless of the gun's statues, does your father-in-law have a MA LTC?
    You can only EF-10 transfer 4/calendar year. The rest would have to be through a dealer, and you'd most likely be subject to the "MA special handgun list of doom"

    As for the C&R I think you just have to record the transfers in your special book, but others on here know more than me.


    FYI: Not to be grim, but inheriting guns is way easier, if you just want to wait...
     
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    Take the guns home and store them for your father...... forever. That's all.
     
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  6. JoseyWales

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    What rifles? What pistols? You have your LTC be and your FIL wants you to have them. Put in car, drive home, bring in house.

    There's a bazillion illegal aliens running around with many laws prohibiting illegal aliens and the federalies don't care.
     
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    Why is this even a problem?

    IBTL
     
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  8. Prepper

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    Just borrow his guns, no need to fill out EFA-10 for that since you don't own them. Should the unfortunate day happens when he's no longer with us, then you can inherit them (however that's done... I did it by just driving Dad's long guns back home to NH, although that was a nerve wracking trip since I didn't want to get pulled over before reaching the NH border).

    Oh, and I am most definitely not a lawyer.
     
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    what rifle ?????
     
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    You can transfer 4 this week (2018) and 4 next week (2019) by EFA-10. Or just take them to your house for safekeeping as suggested above.
     
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    while the legalities of transferring firearms from an estate has its advantages, I would not count on any estate to efficiently distribute property--or even do so predictably since disbursement of personal property is often left to the discretion of the executor or next of kin.
     
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    Someday, you will wish you had kept this a secret...
     
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  13. bostonnerd

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    C&r what you can and fa10 4 this year and 4 next. Do the rest at ffl
     
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    What Knob Creek said
     
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    Never listen to advice like this.

    C&R transactions in the Commonwealth need to be FA-10ed, just like any other transaction. So C&R transfers DO count toward the four firearms your FIL can legally transfer FTF.

    We’re talking about those guns your FIL wants you to store for him, right?
     
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    Take them home, then STFU........DO NOT SPEAK OR POST OF THIS AGAIN............................
     
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    Post what...? [banana]
     
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    No. It's his father in law.
     
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    Why has this post not been deleted yet? ;)
     
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  20. one-eyed Jack

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    It's fun to see the various opinions. Jack.
     
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    THIS!
     
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    Im not sure if this is worded correctly been a while?
    Your C&R means very little as far as State law goes. Although your I believe your violating Federal law if you circumvent state law by using your FFL 03 to acquire firearms? Then IIRC you need to log Any gun you have acquired in you bound book if its a C&R status.
    Im not sure if this applies to FFL03 but again IIRC if you are in possesion of a fire arm for more than 24 hrs as a FFL 03 you are now in possesion and considered transfered.
    If your looking to be as legal as you can. Take what can be to transfer at a FFL dealer? The others have your FIL do personal transfer if hes still licensed.
    Or have him clearly will the guns to you now. Bring guns and copy of will home and put in safe.
     
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    You have a right to own, borrow or posses, what's the problem?
     
  25. slap shot

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    You say he never “registered” them like it’s a bad thing. Congrats on the new guns.
     
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  26. fencer

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    1. Bring guns home.
    2. Put them in your gun safe.
    3. Lock your gun safe.
    4. Shoot them as often as you can, and think about him when you do. He would likely appreciate that.
     
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    I would suggest starting with spelling "legal" properly.
     
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    People need to be careful throwing around the idea of "inheritance" if this guy wants to stay above board witht he law. Inheritance has a legal definition and has requirements to be an actual "inheritance"

    Hopefully LenS pops in here to give the low down.
     
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    Sorry but there are so many bad legal advice replies in this thread that I'm not going to bother.
     
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