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DOJ to reschedule cannabis/pot/marijuana to Schedule-III
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Under federal law, schedule III drugs require a prescription, so the 4473 can stick with the "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?" wording.
snax
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Many for this are already dem voters. Trump voters arent going to switch. If anything, what's their motivation to vote for him if this is their one issue?
Better he kept it in his pocket and whipped it out in october or something.
Dennis in MA
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As much as I hate weed the laws against it are just stupid.
That said, I think they should legalize it but if you find some a-hole smoking it outside of work or in his car or while out shopping, you can smack him in the head no more than 3 times with a wooden baseball bat. (Aluminum would be excessive.)
WTF is wrong with people??? Is weed THAT addictive? Does your life suck THAT much. Damn. People didn't closet-drink that much. Now some tool that didn't as much toke a joint 5 years ago can't go 30 minutes without sparking up. This country is doomed. Damn. And I'd love to blame the Gen-Z and younger Millenials, but more often than not it's some 40-yo loser.
Baseball bats. I think of how much upper-body conditioning I'd get.
That said, I think they should legalize it but if you find some a-hole smoking it outside of work or in his car or while out shopping, you can smack him in the head no more than 3 times with a wooden baseball bat. (Aluminum would be excessive.)
WTF is wrong with people??? Is weed THAT addictive? Does your life suck THAT much. Damn. People didn't closet-drink that much. Now some tool that didn't as much toke a joint 5 years ago can't go 30 minutes without sparking up. This country is doomed. Damn. And I'd love to blame the Gen-Z and younger Millenials, but more often than not it's some 40-yo loser.
Baseball bats. I think of how much upper-body conditioning I'd get.
GOP should have spearheaded this a long time ago. For now they should argue for complete decriminalization federally and let the states decide where to take it from there. Pull in a whole bunch of votes, all sorts of revenue streams and Dems heads would explode since they would have to argue against it, because, reasons.
SKumar
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So now the federal government needs to defend their position on why it was schedule 1 to begin with, and why they insisted on keeping it schedule 1 for a century KNOWING that it had all these medical benefits, safety profile, and several states fully legalizing it for medical and recreational use. Why NOW? Before everyone starts celebrating, I think we should grill the federal government with questions and accountability first.
Also, OP don't post a CNN link ever again.
Also, OP don't post a CNN link ever again.
Not exactly true....NH has been trying to pass rec MJ for years but some of the biggest holdouts and nay votes were dems and dem governors...hell, even nunu said he'd sign a law allowing rec MJ if it came to his desk after a lot of arm twisting.
Missouri passed rec MJ almost two years ago in a mid term general election when they put it to a vote via a ballot initiative to legalize recreational use ...it passed 53-47%.
Cannabis in Missouri - Wikipedia
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It's not Schedule 1 on a worldwide basis, so that would not be a valid point for a lack of studies.
That said, as you appear to agree that there are few if any studies, it would seem that stating there are any benefits is premature.
Sure.
Dennis in MA
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You're asking a "why" question regarding 100 years of government with various administrations and employees???? You'll never get a why. Ever.
Besides, here is the basics of being a bureaucrat.
I have two choices in life. I can do absolutely nothing. If something goes wrong, it wasn't a policy that started on my watch. I inherited this. It's not my fault. No blame falls on me.
OR
I can come up with the best solution known to mankind. But if it fails, I could lose my ability to be promoted or my job altogether. And the entire system of Choice 1 above is against me ever succeeding.
Why would anyone in government ever do anything??? It is against their best interests.
thesyguy
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A few weeks ago I was in Boston and walking towards city hall. There was a guy walking in front of me smoking a joint while walking through city hall plaza like it was commonplace. We are already there, the law is behind the times.
alan226
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Then why has the Federal Government has a Compassionate Investigational New Drug program, established in 1978, allowed patients with serious medical conditions to receive a regular supply of cannabis from the federal government? Not a lot of people on the program, but it did/does exist
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Didn't a recent study show nobody is in Federal prison, nor any New England state prison, solely for possession of "personal use" amounts of weed?
Moving to Schedule III still means illicit dealer get prison terms; see for example convictions for anabolic steroids or ketamine.
VetteGirlMA
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Anyone want to make a little wager that not only will the ATF do nothing when it comes to updating 4473 but the Biden admin will say that keeping it on the 4473 does not infringe on 2A to deny a weed smoker a gun. Because after all this is the exact same DOJ that right now, today, in a 922g1 case is actually arguing that people who smoke MJ are fiends and mentally inferior.
And you will note the work "Investigational" in the title of the program. They were responding to anecdotes with an aim to seeing if there was some there there. As the program has now collapsed to a handful of participants, it would seem that there was no there there.
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It might make some of the "f*** THEM ALL" democrats bother to show up at the polls though. There's a lot of people who would never vote for a right leaning anyone, who are getting disgusted with the limp-dick democrats.
Er... this isn't true.
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The question merely implements underlying federal law, thus the question on the 4473 is "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?" will stand, though the explanation around it might need another rewrite, but the question itself stands.
Schedule III drugs are still controlled substances, so absent a prescription, DOJ is free to argue that unlawful users are
DOJ has successfully argued that 922(g)(3) applies to everybody "addicted to ...a controlled substance", even if obtained under a prescription, going so far as to argue that a prescription for SUBOXONE® or methadone (any drug designated for the treatment of opioid dependence) is prima facia evidence of narcotic addiction.
