democrats for gun ownership

Cerfur said:
There was a great unfortunately single season tv show about a independent vp who became president and how Washington wont allow that to happen called Commander and Chief..
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you mean the one portayed by Geena Davis, the filthy liberal? Yeah, I didn't watch that one, because she's, well, you know, a filthy liberal.
 
BOBKATT said:
Just make sure that you stay in MA where you can't pollute the rest of the pool with your socialist manifesto.

Not that Republicans are any better in practice, but at least they pretend to be pro-BOR. You, on the other hand, openly admit being a member of the party that is not hiding the fact that it seeks to destroy all individual rights as defined in the constitution.

Here is a big FU from a free stater.
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Did you read the thread??? i am not a democrat i am a indpendent I also did not vote for obama! as a matter of fact everything you just posted is false Thanks for the FU maybe you can work on your reading skills as i work on my typing and spelling
 
el duderino said:
Welcome to the forum. We generalize because in the northeast the majority of dems are against gun ownership, where as the rest of the country the dems are just as big of gun owners as republicans though the media may try to hide that. Voting democrat in this region will get you an anti 95% of the time, next time you vote democrat check out their stance on your second amendment rights before casting your vote.
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OH and we have James Eldridge here in the Marlboro Acton area,

of course he "pro gun" i understand he went and spoke to the Harvard

Sportsman Club members "of course i'm on your side" bullsh&t when

it came time to vote for the Goal bill regarding the right to protect

youself no matter where you are, he was agianst it, concern was

"we would turn into vigialntes" sounds like a crock of Bull, so we're

not very trusting of DEMOCRATS or those who vote that way. I would

advise you to keep them kinda opinions to yourself... we're not listening

JimB
 
el duderino said:
Welcome to the forum. We generalize because in the northeast the majority of dems are against gun ownership, where as the rest of the country the dems are just as big of gun owners as republicans though the media may try to hide that. Voting democrat in this region will get you an anti 95% of the time, next time you vote democrat check out their stance on your second amendment rights before casting your vote.
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Which is why this guy right here WONT be voting for Mittens. Permanent assault weapons ban.... thanks a lot you elitist flip flopping @-hole. I checked his stance on guns ;o)

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mark056 said:
Well the fact that so many of you Sons of Liberty are on the attack because you equate the 2A and gun control as a partisan issue when it is really a civil rights issue. The pols in this country have turned it into one. There are pro-gun Democrats and anti-gun Republicans, some of these pro-gun Democrats are in the Mass General Court (state legislature to you non-Ma**h***s). If you don't believe that, simply look at the GOAL ratings for each office holder or candidate.

The main problem with a lot of the Sons of Liberty out there is that they want you to lock-step on every other issue with them. Conservative Sons of Liberty are a total disaster because they want you to conform to their societal norms just like the liberal Sons of Liberty want me to conform to their societal norms which makes them a total disaster. The difference is merely content, but the agenda is exactly the same where some Son of Liberty is going to tell me what is best for me.

Frankly, this thread will not end well. Many of you have failed to realize that by taking the high road and pushing your own agenda, you are only alienating people who support you on the 2A.

I have reached the point in my own voting, where 2A position is the only position that makes a difference to me. The reason is quite simple, ownership of a firearm is the only guarantee of my own personal liberty and safety and those of my loved ones. I will vote in the Presidential election for the person who is a member of the NRA and only because of that. The Republican candidate is now a Life Member (but he could flip-flop and join the Brady Bunch six months after being elected), if tomorrow the incumbent Democrat raised the ante and became an Endowment Member (not highly likely), he would get my vote, it is as simple as that.

I do not vote issues anymore, I vote what is for me, THE ISSUE. YMMV.
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You sir are the most intelligent poster on this forum. Thank you for bringing common sense to the argument.

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There's very little difference between parties. Both want bigger government and more control over every facet of peoples' lives. One side calls it 'progress', the other side calls it a 'war on something' (drugs, terror, etc). The right wants to push 'family values' down our throats, and the left has 'political correctness' and its own religion called "climate change".

Most of the posters in this thread are doing exactly what the power elite want you to do: squabble over minor differences in ideology while those in power take even more power over our lives.
 
EddieCoyle said:
There's very little difference between parties. Both want bigger government and more control over every facet of peoples' lives. One side calls it 'progress', the other side calls it a 'war on something' (drugs, terror, etc). The right wants to push 'family values' down our throats, and the left has 'political correctness' and its own religion called "climate change".

Most of the posters in this thread are doing exactly what the power elite want you to do: squabble over minor differences in ideology while those in power take even more power over our lives.
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Yep, the only major difference I see is ones socialist, and ones capitalist or atleast claims to be.
 
mark056 said:
Well the fact that so many of you Sons of Liberty are on the attack because you equate the 2A and gun control as a partisan issue when it is really a civil rights issue. The pols in this country have turned it into one. There are pro-gun Democrats and anti-gun Republicans, some of these pro-gun Democrats are in the Mass General Court (state legislature to you non-Ma**h***s). If you don't believe that, simply look at the GOAL ratings for each office holder or candidate.

The main problem with a lot of the Sons of Liberty out there is that they want you to lock-step on every other issue with them. Conservative Sons of Liberty are a total disaster because they want you to conform to their societal norms just like the liberal Sons of Liberty want me to conform to their societal norms which makes them a total disaster. The difference is merely content, but the agenda is exactly the same where some Son of Liberty is going to tell me what is best for me.

Frankly, this thread will not end well. Many of you have failed to realize that by taking the high road and pushing your own agenda, you are only alienating people who support you on the 2A.

I have reached the point in my own voting, where 2A position is the only position that makes a difference to me. The reason is quite simple, ownership of a firearm is the only guarantee of my own personal liberty and safety and those of my loved ones. I will vote in the Presidential election for the person who is a member of the NRA and only because of that. The Republican candidate is now a Life Member (but he could flip-flop and join the Brady Bunch six months after being elected), if tomorrow the incumbent Democrat raised the ante and became an Endowment Member (not highly likely), he would get my vote, it is as simple as that.

I do not vote issues anymore, I vote what is for me, THE ISSUE. YMMV.
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I don't think the "sons of liberty" are alienating anyone, they're really just pushing the conclusion that you, yourself, came to. 2A is more important than anything.
 
EddieCoyle said:
The right wants to push 'family values' down our throats
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When is the last time family values was part of a national Republican platform? If gun owners aren't out there voting Republican, they're slitting their own throats, figuratively speaking.
 
I am represented by Scott Brown, and when I wrote in to support [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Act (H.R. 822). This was his response:

[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]"Under the proposed House legislation, a national concealed carry reciprocity amendment would obligate states like Massachusetts to recognize the concealed carry permits of other states, even if the bearer of that permit does not meet the requirements established by Massachusetts to receive such a concealed carry permit. I believe that the people of Massachusetts are best positioned to decide what is best for Massachusetts. Therefore, if H.R. 822 or similar legislation comes before the Senate, I will vote no."[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
oyster said:
I am represented by Scott Brown, and when I wrote in to support National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Act (H.R. 822). This was his response:

"Under the proposed House legislation, a national concealed carry reciprocity amendment would obligate states like Massachusetts to recognize the concealed carry permits of other states, even if the bearer of that permit does not meet the requirements established by Massachusetts to receive such a concealed carry permit. I believe that the people of Massachusetts are best positioned to decide what is best for Massachusetts. Therefore, if H.R. 822 or similar legislation comes before the Senate, I will vote no."

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Exactly. The ironic thing is that in the paragraph before this, he (or, more appropriately, one of his aides) wrote: "As you may know, I support the individual right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution." How can one support the 2A in one breath and then emphasize the need to protect MA's established requirements in another? It just goes to show that even the pols that are supposed to be pro-gun still have to cater to some political machine (in this case, the MA electorate). [banghead]
 
Cerfur said:
Again the did I vote for obama question is kind of bs the only thing that obama has actually done as far as gun ownership is alow us to carry in national parks that's pro gun do I think that he is pro gun proubly not but I don't really belive he is anti gun either I dislike a hell of a lot of his polices I will tell you that, emorcelli I am a independent who votes on both sides the post is about genralizing democrats and if you are handing out cookies yes I would like one..
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I could be wrong but I believe he also stiffed the american people on getting back some M1 carbines and garands from south korea our tax dollars paid for. I don't know if that is very "pro gun".
 
EddieCoyle said:
There's very little difference between parties. Both want bigger government and more control over every facet of peoples' lives. One side calls it 'progress', the other side calls it a 'war on something' (drugs, terror, etc). The right wants to push 'family values' down our throats, and the left has 'political correctness' and its own religion called "climate change".

Most of the posters in this thread are doing exactly what the power elite want you to do: squabble over minor differences in ideology while those in power take even more power over our lives.
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Amen! This is one of the smartest, and dead on the money post I've read on this site!! As a Independent, it's like having to ride bitch between two fat people, in a car with the windows rolled up, on a 100 degree day, full humidity, after eating at a all you can eat Mexican buffet! Trapped, where one side wants to love everybody and share the wealth especially someone else, and the other hates everybody and wishes we could go back to a pre-civil war era(which sorry, ain't happening). All the while, over seas, and a few select families here, are using our money through their banks to fund wars, take our rights and slow kill us! But we're too busy arguing over ones political affiliation or ones skin tone, or religious faith to see that they a literally taking every red blooded one of us to the bank whether you're awake or not!
 
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I know many democrats that own guns. Unfortunately they are mostly fudd guns and to a man each one of them is more than willing to give away all other rights of gun owners as long as you don't touch their hunting. They will compromise away the rights of the rest of us by calling the dingbats that come up with the crazy gun control ideas and telling them that they own guns and can live with semi auto bans, one gun a month, black gun bans, banning concealed carry, banning plastic guns, banning handguns altogether...except for hunting, banning various non hunting ammunition, etc. That really pisses me off about gun owning dems.
I curse Paul Cellucci to this day for asking for and signing an assault weapon ban. I feel no remorse that the gypsy blood that runs in my veins was successful with the curse I put on him and also felt no remorse when I responded that he deserves worse when I was told he has ALS. I can also say I never voted for him. I've voted Libertarian 3 of the last 5 elections.
 
oyster said:
I am represented by Scott Brown, and when I wrote in to support [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Act (H.R. 822). This was his response:

[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]"Under the proposed House legislation, a national concealed carry reciprocity amendment would obligate states like Massachusetts to recognize the concealed carry permits of other states, even if the bearer of that permit does not meet the requirements established by Massachusetts to receive such a concealed carry permit. I believe that the people of Massachusetts are best positioned to decide what is best for Massachusetts. Therefore, if H.R. 822 or similar legislation comes before the Senate, I will vote no."[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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No way lol downtown Scott Brown is on the side of the idiotic gun laws we have here in Massachusetts? But he's like us.... He drives a truck! LOL.
 
MilitaryPolice said:
No way lol downtown Scott Brown is on the side of the idiotic gun laws we have here in Massachusetts? But he's like us.... He drives a truck! LOL.
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Sometimes it's better to sleep with the dogs then with the pigs. I seriously just made that up.
 
It seems to me that Republican and Democrat politicians are 2 sides of the same coin.

I think there should be manditory 2 terms and they're out for all of them - first term in office; second term in jail.

(I'm impressed that we're playing nicely with the new member to the forum. Kudos to all that are being persuasive without being rude).
 
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so I am guessing that you folks don't want to get behind the use of the word protectonist instead of democrats and you have no interest in the democrats for gun ownership lobby.... hope we can still be friends
 
Fast and Furious...an Obama administration program was designed to fool the american public into believing normal every day citizens were shipping guns to Mexico so they could ban their sale here.

Another UN gun control scheme that Hillary Clinton and Obama would be happy to stick us with.

Obama has surrounded himself with gun haters at every position he has filled.

Ammo prices and supplies related to Obama and fears of what his administration will do.

Don't tell me he hasn't done anything to harm gun ownership.
 
I don't want to be friends with anyone..I want to live my life with my god given rights,as an american.I dont want to be put in a box as a Dem or Rep. " Goverment get out of my life" .
 
carbuncle said:
True, I've met many more republicans with a lassez-faire attitude about social issues than I have democrats who will tolerate anything other than total compliance with the party line and politicallyy correct mores.

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I bet you haven't met many Democrats, then. It sounds like you are judging them by the "spokesmen" that the media selects, and the media likes to emphasize differences.
 

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