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With that attitude.....even if you win the battle you will have lost the war. You will be behind bars, and give the antis another statistic to use.
I agree with many of your posts, but you seem to think you are invincible. I don't know you and you may very well be one of the biggest bad-asses out there. No matter how big and bad you are there is ALWAYS someone bigger and badder.
Just moved here, and registered to vote. So now can I contribute my doom-and-gloom commentary from the New Hampshire side of the border?
Jose's got few places in NH where he'll be welcomed as family. Just sayin'.
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As a NH citizen, I say Live Free or Die.
Arms are a right, not a privilege. One never needs a license to exercise your rights. There may be a desire to obtain a license due to other people threatening your life liberty and or property unless you comply with their demands, but that is no need. If you wish to obey the rules of the government, then open carry or carry something else. If you wish to obey God's law, which can be accurately stated as "Live Free or Die", then just be responsible and ethical.
Those who protest about "breaking our laws" should take a deep breath and make a serious attempt to think critically and independently about this issue. You can legally carry a gun in New Hampshire. The government mandates that you get a permission slip to put a jacket or shirt over the gun, or to carry the gun in a motor vehicle. You do not need a permission slip to carry a gun into a police station, or a school, or a shopping mall. Should you decide to get this mandatory permission slip to change your outfit or to exercise your right of locomotion using the prevalent means of motor vehicles, then it is mandatory that the government grant you the permission slip. Blind obedience to the rules when they are this absurd and flat out stupid and pointless is what encourages the growth of tyranny.
I hoping New Hampshire will follow Arizona's lead and join Alaska and Vermont in not requiring mandatory permission slips for the exercise of essential rights without false criminal prosecutions.
Arms are a right, not a privilege. One never needs a license to exercise your rights. There may be a desire to obtain a license due to other people threatening your life liberty and or property unless you comply with their demands, but that is no need. If you wish to obey the rules of the government, then open carry or carry something else. If you wish to obey God's law, which can be accurately stated as "Live Free or Die", then just be responsible and ethical.
Those who protest about "breaking our laws" should take a deep breath and make a serious attempt to think critically and independently about this issue. You can legally carry a gun in New Hampshire. The government mandates that you get a permission slip to put a jacket or shirt over the gun, or to carry the gun in a motor vehicle. You do not need a permission slip to carry a gun into a police station, or a school, or a shopping mall. Should you decide to get this mandatory permission slip to change your outfit or to exercise your right of locomotion using the prevalent means of motor vehicles, then it is mandatory that the government grant you the permission slip. Blind obedience to the rules when they are this absurd and flat out stupid and pointless is what encourages the growth of tyranny.
I hoping New Hampshire will follow Arizona's lead and join Alaska and Vermont in not requiring mandatory permission slips for the exercise of essential rights without false criminal prosecutions.
Lank
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Yikes...
I had a NH CCW in 2006...but I was a resident. The process was easy. I havent kept up to date with NH gun laws lately, as I am now living in MA.
Have the liberals changed the NH Gun laws recently?
I had a NH CCW in 2006...but I was a resident. The process was easy. I havent kept up to date with NH gun laws lately, as I am now living in MA.
Have the liberals changed the NH Gun laws recently?
Nope. P&RL is still easy to get, both Resident and Non-Resident, albeit the NR fee was jacked up to $100 recently. No changes to the process.
caboose84
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A Pistol/Revolver License in NH can be issued for self defense, hunting and/or target shooting. Per the law it is valid for any purpose, no matter what purpose it was issued for. What it means is there are no "restrictions" on the license.
Hard to tell with the flow, but Lank's question was about whether or not NH would deny a NR license if your MA LTC had restrictions, not whether or not the NH NR License would have restrictions. For a while, I heard NH was denying NR LTC's if you had restrictions on your LTC, then I heard they weren't, or it depended on who you spoke to...I didn't answer because I don't know definitively what the answer is, but someone here will chime in soon.
Agreed. However, most of the people I know that want to move or have there share our views, of course I don't hang out with liberal progressive socialists.
If I could move there I would in a second, unfortunately it's not going to happen anytime soon. My point is that you folks have a battle ahead of you as well and to stay vigilant. We seem to be of the same mindset.
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LTCRN
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I have Assachusetts restrictions, but just got my NH license, 3 weeks ago with NO RESTRICTIONS. It doesn't say anything on the license about a restriction, like Assachusetts does. It is simply a non - resident pistol / revolver license to carry concealed.
I'm not understanding your point. Lynch isn't pro-gun, but he's not working at being anti-gun, either, and he didn't block the switchblade/dagger law, either. Nor has Lynch caused state buildings to be posted as gun free zones. Stephen, by contrast, had DHHS buildings posted while he ran that agency. The signs were eventually removed by actions of legislators, over Stephen's strong objections.
Ayotte herself has devoted herself to curtailing freedoms. She worked successfully to prevent Stand Your Ground from becoming law, and she maintains that we do not have a right to carry concealed.
As Mayor, Guinta banned guns from some city property, despite his action being clearly illegal, and he stood firm against all attempts to get the city to follow the law. Interestingly, when it was pointed out to the Attorney General - Ayotte - that Manchester was breaking the law that prohibits municipalities from regulating guns, she didn't care.
Finally, Bass is basically gun-neutral. During his earlier stint in elected office, Bass was routinely on the wrong side of gun votes but, to be fair, it wasn't out of any personal convictions. He only votes the way he is told by "leadership."
Lank
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I still remain curious about NH politics because I hope to someday return. I have seen the seacaost region develop into an extention of the N. Shore, which concerns me. Progressive socialists have always resided in Durham, Portsmouth and Newmarket- but now I have seen thier tentacles extend way outside route 108, 16 etc.
I think what Blitz was saying is that NH gun owners need to be very careful about the chain migration of MA liberals to NH.
After thier social engineering projects fail, liberals always migrate to new places to ruin.
I think what Blitz was saying is that NH gun owners need to be very careful about the chain migration of MA liberals to NH.
After thier social engineering projects fail, liberals always migrate to new places to ruin.
First, I'm not a single issue voter. I evaluate the "body of work," but even considering that, I certainly don't understand your point. Are you saying that Lynch is somehow more pro-gun than Stephen, or that Hodes is somehow more committed to 2A rights than Ayotte, or that Shea-Porter or Kuster are stronger on gun rights than Guinta or Bass? What is your point?
Second, your recollection is faulty at best. Lynch actively opposed Vermont-style carry, and veto'd SYG. Ayotte's position on it was irrelevant, as she had no vote in the matter, and Lynch was going to veto it anyway. (As I understood it at the time, her objection had more to do with the way the law was written than the concept, but I may be wrong.) Where's your evidence that she "maintains we do not have the right to carry concealed?" What are you basing that on? She wrote amicus briefs in support of both Heller and McDonald, and she supports nationwide recognition of concealed carry licenses. And she was the AG who stated ""...open carry is regarded as a Right, and though any citizen may call the police if they observe someone carrying a gun openly, that citizen's 'annoyance and alarm' does not override the Right to carry openly." Yeah, real gun hater there. Take a quick look at the gun owner who are supporting her. Real wishy-washy types like Mas Ayoob, Mike Briggs, and our own Jim McLoud. Where are you getting your talking points? Some left-over Bill Binnie flyers?
And Gunita, that anti-gun bastard, he says "The right to own a firearm is clearly protected under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and should not be infringed upon," and gets an "A" rating from both the NRA and GOA.
And Bass, well, he may be our weak link. He gets a "A" rating from the NRA, but only a "B" from GOA. Oh, boy, are we in trouble!
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NH does not have restrictions on their Pistol / Revolver licenses. It's either issued or denied.
strangenh
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Indeed. MA's licenses are not just carry licenses, but possession licenses; the restrictions are used to neuter the carry half of the coin. NH licenses just enable concealed/vehicle carry, and a few other little exceptions in the RSAs and F&G regs.
And he vetoed the bipartisan dismantling of the state's nearly-unused gun dealer laws, which have been struck down by courts as unconstitutionally vague (Geddes) or used to railroad honest and innocent people all the way through indictment.
First, I'm not a single issue voter. I evaluate the "body of work," but even considering that, I certainly don't understand your point. Are you saying that Lynch is somehow more pro-gun than Stephen, or that Hodes is somehow more committed to 2A rights than Ayotte, or that Shea-Porter or Kuster are stronger on gun rights than Guinta or Bass? What is your point?
Second, your recollection is faulty at best. Lynch actively opposed Vermont-style carry, and veto'd SYG. Ayotte's position on it was irrelevant, as she had no vote in the matter, and Lynch was going to veto it anyway. (As I understood it at the time, her objection had more to do with the way the law was written than the concept, but I may be wrong.) Where's your evidence that she "maintains we do not have the right to carry concealed?" What are you basing that on? She wrote amicus briefs in support of both Heller and McDonald, and she supports nationwide recognition of concealed carry licenses. And she was the AG who stated ""...open carry is regarded as a Right, and though any citizen may call the police if they observe someone carrying a gun openly, that citizen's 'annoyance and alarm' does not override the Right to carry openly." Yeah, real gun hater there. Take a quick look at the gun owner who are supporting her. Real wishy-washy types like Mas Ayoob, Mike Briggs, and our own Jim McLoud. Where are you getting your talking points? Some left-over Bill Binnie flyers?
And Gunita, that anti-gun bastard, he says "The right to own a firearm is clearly protected under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and should not be infringed upon," and gets an "A" rating from both the NRA and GOA.
And Bass, well, he may be our weak link. He gets a "A" rating from the NRA, but only a "B" from GOA. Oh, boy, are we in trouble!
My point is that you were touting these Republican candidates as if they have a record that is nothing but good for gun owners, and that is simply not the case.
In office, Lynch has been neutral on guns. Like Shaheen before him, I believe that he is inherently opposed to firearms ownership, but he has kept his individual belief out of performing his job as Governor.
I know Stephen personally, consider him a friend, and will certainly vote for him, but he has never explained why he banned guns from every State building under his control when he had that power, or why it required legislative action to remove his gun ban. It took the guys now at PGNH to push and push to remove the ban.
I am not interested in "talking points," no matter who issues them, nor do I care who has "signed on" to support a particular campaign. My primary concern is what people actually do when they have the power to do it, not what they say they will do.
Yes, Lynch vetoed "Stand Your Ground." And when he did, he cited multiple recommendations from the State's Chief Law Enforcement Officer, Kelly Ayotte. As Attorney General, Ayotte not only opposed every attempt to broaden our gun rights, she actively tried to roll them back.
You're right that Ayotte has said that open carry is a right. But she has also stated, in court documents, that concealed carry is not a right. Feel free to read about her anti-gun amicus brief in the Bleiler case here:
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/nh-supreme-court/1219270.html. Be warned that the anti-gun crap spewed by the court in this case is outrageous.
And I will point out again that Ayotte - as Attorney General - made a decision to ignore the Guinta and the City of Manchester's violation of RSA 129:16.
Again, you are conflating political talking points - designed to get votes - with real-world action. While Mayor, Guinta had the city of Manchester illegally regulate guns in violation of RSA 129:26, and he stonewalled all attempts to bring the city into complaince.[/QUOTE]
And Bass, well, he may be our weak link. He gets a "A" rating from the NRA, but only a "B" from GOA. Oh, boy, are we in trouble!
Bass hasn't ever been above a legitimate 'C' as regarding guns in his entire career, but there seems no doubt that Kuster would be worse.
You seem to state many of your opinions as if they were facts. Why do you do that?
You said: "In office, Lynch has been neutral on guns." Interesting opinion. Lynch vetoed SYG (fact), campaigned against Vermont-style carry (fact), and vetoed legislation getting rid of the state's ambigous and useless gun dealer laws (fact). Now, please state your facts showing he's been neutral on gun rights. (And simply not vetoing the recent law regarding knives doesn't really count.)
For a guy not interested in talking points, you sure like to spew them. Please answser one question for me: If Kelly Ayotte is so soft on gun rights, can you explain please why hard-core gun rights supporters are backing her? Are they just...stupid? Uninformed? Not really gun rights advocates?
You said "As Attorney General, Ayotte not only opposed every attempt to broaden our gun rights, she actively tried to roll them back." Please give me examples where Ayotte "opposed every attempt to broaden our gun rights," aside from SYG. Why would someone who opposed gun rights publish an opinion that a "...citizen's 'annoyance and alarm' does not override the Right to carry openly." Why would she say that? It would have been the perfect "out" for someone who didn't fully support gun rights. "Hey, I'm all for gun rights, but you can't be scaring the good citizens with scary guns." Instead, she took a very pro-gun rights position, one that I'll bet a lot of other states would love to hear from their AG. Why did she do that? What did she have to gain back then?
And, my favorite of all: "Bass hasn't ever been above a legitimate 'C' as regarding guns in his entire career." Really? Says who? You? Do we now have the "Auspicious Aspect" rating that somehow supersedes the NRA and GOA? Wow, I'm impressed.
So, you seem to be privy to some insider information neither the NRA or GOA else has. So, tell us, why do you think both NRA and GOA rate Guinta and Bass so highly? Are they, like the gun rights advocates who support Kelly Ayotte, also uninformed or stupid?
I wonder what your agenda is.
