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Carrying while hunting is illegal, right?
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Holy crap like 3 people have explained it here. Its about hunting impliment rules. You cant shoot pheasants with a handgun (rightfully so as the wma is packed with people). The act of hunting is not actually shooting.....if you on wma land stocked with pheasant with a handgun are you hunting with the handgun? The rule is there to to remove doubt.
you can hunt coyote and bear with a handgun so if you have a bear tag....during bear season you are g2g. Get it?
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Read post 50......it explains it quite well.....then when the game wardenasks which gun are you hunting with? You know why the ruke is there. To us it may be obvious but the rule is there to remove all doubt.
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Reading comprehension is not a strong suit with this one is it.
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Really this is the question here and I have been unable to find a solid answer.
I do know that it is a ticket, because I saw one issued but I didn't stick around to be insensitive enough to ask the details.
Yep. EPO was super friendly up until this kid comes down the trail in camo head-to-toe. He was putting out a deer stand, called it "scouting" to the EPO. Every answer to the EPO's questions just got worse and worse.
Because the king says you can't. All it takes is one officer that wants to exert a god complex and your day is ruined. Not being allowed to carry a sidearm while hunting is one of the dumbest rules out there and there are a ton of idiotic hunting rules. Mostly because a lot of hunters are fudds who do incredibly stupid things while in the woods 2 weeks out of the year. Like most things, it only takes a few idiots to ruin it for everyone. Blaze orange is another one.
Definitely legislated to the lowest common denominator and they live up to it.
Same EPO was telling us about the guy he escorted to the ER last season bc 4 of the guys he was with shot him in the face bc the pheasant flew behind his head.
Some of those public pheasant stocked areas can get a little hairy.
Reading from Glidden's book on MA gun (and hunting) laws . . .
S. 67 is listed as Misdemeanor, $50-1000 or up to 1 year HOC, statutory right of arrest under C. 131 S. 87
S. 70 is listed as Misdemeanor, $50-1000 or up to 60 days HOC, statutory right of arrest under C. 131 S. 87
This is why I would wear blaze orange even if it were not required. Shotgun deer season can get hairy too. Not that the orange makes me bullet proof
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jesus that sucks. If you dont see the sky let it fly! Rules to live by!!! I kinda gave up on pheasant hunting. The wmas can be a total circus. Was no fun anymore watching guys fight with each other and yelling at their untrained dogs all day. Went two years ago and pulled into the parking area. There was a pheasant in a tree next to the lot. I got out and a guy in a pickup told me "that one is mine". I certainly has no plans to tree shoot a bird standing next to my truck. 2 seconds after legal light he shot it.....put it in the truck and drove away. What the ****!?!
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Any act involving game may be considered hunting. Scouting, setting cams, erecting stands, checking sd cards, retrieving or following game. Any act that is enabling a person to harvest a game animal is / can be looked at as "hunting"
Lens MGL 131 87 allows the arrest without a warrant for any 131 violation.
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This one time... While the dogs & I were headed back to the parking area at one WMA, we crossed paths with a young man carrying a compound bow. He was walking the fields in hopes of flushing a pheasant, with a broadhead-tipped arrow knocked up and ready to fly.
Do you have any instances or evidence that you can point to where someone was charged with a crime for "hunting" such as setting up trail cams or tree stands out of season?
It's also not uncommon during evening hunts to harvest an animal right at the buzzer. Is field dressing and dragging the animal out after hours considered "hunting"? I don't know that it is. I've certainly never heard of anyone getting jammed up because of it. If so it would take evening hunts completely off the table. Dear activity happens right at the buzzer. There would be rare to harvest an animal in the evening and get it out of the woods before dark.
What about getting to your tree stand before shooting light? Just about every hunter does this. I've witnessed crowds of hunters do this right in front of EPO officers. Particularly in places like the Freetown State Forest. They drive by and EPO station on their way into the woods. Nobody's ever been jammed up for it....
I've always carried a G29 or 1911 during bow season, it's properly concealed though, as I would normally carry, and it's pretty impossible to tell I have it under hunting clothes, and there's really no reason it would ever come up if I was out bow hunting. I've been stopped before on public land, they just check my license and ask how my hunt is going, if I've seen anything interesting, and that's usually the end of it.
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Thats pushing it. Though I generally don't bowhunt on WMA land..... Ive set plenty of cams, stands, and scouted on Sundays or out of season in MA for 30 years. Ive never seen a warden in that time ever.
If you had a CC on you.....yeah, they could maybe push it that you are hunting, it would be a stretch.......the weapon does give them some bullshit excuse.
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Yes they can. Its why I never hunt them on Saturday mornings. During the week the one near me is fine.
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Just leave the fotay home after dark:
General Law - Part I, Title XIX, Chapter 131, Section 67
Section 67. A person shall not use or possess, where birds or mammals may be found, any rifle chambered to take larger than twenty-two long rifle ammunition, or any revolver or pistol chambered to take larger than thirty-eight caliber ammunition between the hours of one half hour after sunset to one half hour before sunrise of any day throughout the year.
And before the usual silliness about "Does that apply in the city after dark because people are mammals", note that the definition of mammal used is in Section 1:
General Law - Part I, Title XIX, Chapter 131, Section 1
Section 1. In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires, the following words shall have the following meanings and the following rules of construction shall apply:—
''Mammals'', wild or undomesticated mammals
Which also means you can carry where people walk dogs but not where the Buffalo Roam.
General Law - Part I, Title XIX, Chapter 131, Section 67
Section 67: Rifles, revolvers and pistols; caliber
Section 67. A person shall not use or possess, where birds or mammals may be found, any rifle chambered to take larger than twenty-two long rifle ammunition, or any revolver or pistol chambered to take larger than thirty-eight caliber ammunition between the hours of one half hour after sunset to one half hour before sunrise of any day throughout the year.
And before the usual silliness about "Does that apply in the city after dark because people are mammals", note that the definition of mammal used is in Section 1:
General Law - Part I, Title XIX, Chapter 131, Section 1
Section 1: Definitions; rules of construction
Section 1. In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires, the following words shall have the following meanings and the following rules of construction shall apply:—
''Mammals'', wild or undomesticated mammals
Which also means you can carry where people walk dogs but not where the Buffalo Roam.
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I certainly hope they follow well established precedent and do not consider statistical unlikelihood as any sort of evidence absence specific indications of individual ballots, ooops I mean lottery tickets, being miscounted.
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Here's another scenario. An average joe is out for a trail walk as he does every weekend and it happens to be during deer season. He's not a hunter and has never hunted in his life but has his concealed license. Since it's deer season, he wears orange just for safety while out on a walk. IF he were to run into a warden and IF the warden were to find out that the walker is carrying, would the walker be charged or fined for breaking any game laws even though he has never hunted and walks the same trails every weekend? Just because he is wearing orange, it doesn't mean he's hunting.
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And trespassing. Menacing. Possession with intent to disrtribute if it was a HC mag. LOL
Wickedcoolname
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Concealed.......
