Ban on guns in post offices is unconstitutional...

[Andy in NH]

This is a good start.

Ban on guns in post offices is unconstitutional, US judge rules

A federal judge in Florida on Friday ruled that a U.S. law that bars people from possessing firearms in post offices is unconstitutional, citing a landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling from 2022 that expanded gun rights.

U.S. District Judge Kathryn Kimball Mizelle, an appointee of Republican former President Donald Trump in Tampa, reached that conclusion in dismissing part of an indictment charging a postal worker with illegally possessing a gun in a federal facility.

 

[Admin]

Good news, however bans are never a reason to not carry. Some of them postal workers are crazy, "going postal" came from somewhere.

 

[Buck F]

Good news, however bans are never a reason to not carry. Some of them postal workers are crazy, "going postal" came from somewhere.

Certainly seems like it was a reason for the guy in the article not to carry, although I do agree w you in general

 

[FalArAk]

I'm not supposed to carry in the P.O.?

 

[Fixxah]

Never knew there was a ban on regular folk. Thought it was for employees only..

 

[Admin]

Never knew there was a ban on regular folk. Thought it was for employees only..

My PO has a big sign on the door letting the serfs know it extra special punishable to carry a firearm around the King's men.

 

[Mtn_Guy]

Text, history, and tradition…

“The judge said that post offices have existed since the nation's foundation and that the federal law did not forbid carrying firearms into post offices until 1972”

 

[Blackmore]

Concealed means concealed though this judge's ruling probably opens the door to open carry for customers.

 

[Knob Creek]

I had to go into the Post Office to pickup a gun shipped to me.

 

[jkelly1229]

Never knew there was a ban on regular folk. Thought it was for employees only..

Postal police are the biggest cock suckers on the planet...i swear they take the guys who get rejected from the atf and msp and have them sire a line of dick heads that go work for them

 

[Bonesinium]

Concealed means concealed

I really wish people would stop saying this. Because it’s stupid and misses the point on so many levels.

I mean, sure, that’s great, if you are just carrying to carry. Isn’t particularly helpful in any situation where you’d actually need it.

 

[PatMcD]

I really wish people would stop saying this. Because it’s stupid and misses the point on so many levels.

I mean, sure, that’s great, if you are just carrying to carry. Isn’t particularly helpful in any situation where you’d actually need it.

? Please expand on that thought, if you would.

 

[granitestater]

There is an exemption....

I direct your attention to 18 USC 930 (d) (3)

18 U.S. Code § 930 - Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to—
(1)
the lawful performance of official duties by an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of law;

(2)
the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such possession is authorized by law; or

(3)
the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.

 

[Broc]

People go to the PO?

Do you people work? When do you find time to go?

 

[FalArAk]

I really wish people would stop saying this. Because it’s stupid and misses the point on so many levels.

I mean, sure, that’s great, if you are just carrying to carry. Isn’t particularly helpful in any situation where you’d actually need it.

I always thought concealed meant something other than concealed, and sometimes I forget that concealed means concealed... Thankfully though, I do get reminded every so often on this very website that concealed does in fact mean, concealed.

 

[Qwikdraw45]

Postal police are the biggest cock suckers on the planet...i swear they take the guys who get rejected from the atf and msp and have them sire a line of dick heads that go work for them

One of my National Guard officers was a Postal Inspector. Another guy who I helped train me at my current job is retired from being a Postal Inspector. Both were cool-as-F***.

People go to the PO?

Do you people work? When do you find time to go?

I know, right? My hours are their hours, except for Saturday mornings.

 

[Broc]

I know, right? My hours are their hours, except for Saturday mornings.

But that is range time.

 

[Asaltweapon]

Yawn.

 

[Buck F]

Postal police are the biggest cock suckers on the planet...i swear they take the guys who get rejected from the atf and msp and have them sire a line of dick heads that go work for them

One of my National Guard officers was a Postal Inspector. Another guy who I helped train me at my current job is retired from being a Postal Inspector. Both were cool-as-F***.

I know, right? My hours are their hours, except for Saturday mornings.

 

[FalArAk]

View attachment 838691

George: "Postal workers, arent they the guys that go on shooting sprees?"
Newman: ".... sometimes."

 

[jkelly1229]

People go to the PO?

Do you people work? When do you find time to go?

I worked at a bunch of post offices does that count

 

[Broc]

I worked at a bunch of post offices does that count

No

 

[chris_1001]

I f***ing dread going to the PO to ship anything

I have a ton of things I’d love to sell. But each would require a visit.

This is not even a can’t carry rant.

And I’m now wondering why my by 9:00 am mail delivery is now a 3:30-4:30 delivery?

 

[kalash]

Why does everyone seem to hate the post office? I don't mind it unless there's a long line.

 

[KBCraig]

There is an exemption....

I direct your attention to 18 USC 930 (d) (3)

18 U.S. Code § 930 - Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to—
(1)
the lawful performance of official duties by an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of law;

(2)
the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such possession is authorized by law; or

(3)
the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.

Ah, but check the definition of "Federal facility": a building or portion of a building where federal employees regularly perform work.

The USPS folks regularly claim they're not federal employees, because USPS is a federally chartered quasi-private corporation. If that's true, the PO isn't a federal facility.

 

[granitestater]

Ah, but check the definition of "Federal facility": a building or portion of a building where federal employees regularly perform work.

The USPS folks regularly claim they're not federal employees, because USPS is a federally chartered quasi-private corporation. If that's true, the PO isn't a federal facility.

Yes and no. This poster, displayed in every post office i have visited:

https://about.usps.com/posters/pos158.pdf

Specifically mentions 18 USC 930....

I guess folks need to decide for themselves if they will or will not disarm....

 

[drgrant]

Why does everyone seem to hate the post office? I don't mind it unless there's a long line.

Because most of them have bankers hours, and actually they're on average worse to visit than a bank.

 

[Roadglide]

One of my National Guard officers was a Postal Inspector. Another guy who I helped train me at my current job is retired from being a Postal Inspector. Both were cool-as-F***.

Some people just have to learn the hard way I guess

 

[Asaltweapon]

Why does everyone seem to hate the post office? I don't mind it unless there's a long line.

Depends on the office.
Take Chatham for instance. They suck salamander balls.

 

[milktree]

I f***ing dread going to the PO to ship anything

I have a ton of things I’d love to sell. But each would require a visit.

If you have a mailbox and the (boxed) things you’re selling fit in it you can print a label and leave the package in the mailbox for pickup.