Article: GOP Senators Push for Concealed-Carry State Reciprocity Law

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Obie,

Here's where your argument comes off the rails

The senator that proposed the 14th amendment even made reference to Priv AND Immunities and Priv OR Immunities in his discussion of the proposed and subsequently ratified ammendment as being one in the same

Heck he even refers back to Judge Washington's assessment of Corfield vs Coryell where Washington states:

"The next question is whether this act infringes that section of the Constitution which declares that

'the citizens of each State shall be
entitled to all privileges and immunities

of citizens in the several states?'

"The inquiry is, what are the privileges and immun

ities of citizens in the several States? We feel

no hesitation in confining these expressions to those privileges and immunities which are in their nature

fundamental, which belong of right to the citizens of all free Governments, and which have at all times

been enjoyed by the citizens of the several States

which compose this Union from the time of their

becoming free, independent, and sovereign. What these fundamental principles are it would, perhaps, be

more tedious than difficult to enumerate. They may, however, be all comprehended under the following

general heads: protection by the Government, the enjo

yment of life and liberty, with the right to acquire

and possess property of every kind, and to pursue and obtain happiness and safety, subject nevertheless to

such restraints as the Government may justly prescrib

e for the general good of the whole. The right of a

citizen of one State to pass through or to reside in any other State, for purposes of trade, agriculture,

professional pursuits, or otherwise; to claim the benefit of the writ of

habeas corpus

; to institute and

maintain actions of any kind in the courts of the Stat

e; to take, hold, and dispose of property, either real

personal, and an exemption from higher taxes or impositions than are paid by the other citizens of the State,

may be mentioned as some of the particular priv

ileges and immunities of citizens which are clearly

embraced by the general description of privileges deem

ed to be fundamental,, to which may be added the

elective franchise, as regulated and established by the la

ws or constitution of the State in which it is to be

exercised. These, and many others which might be mentioned, are, strictly speaking, privileges and

immunities, and the enjoyment of them by the citizens of each State in every other State was manifestly

calculated (to use the expressions of the preamble of

the corresponding provision in the old Articles of

Confederation) 'the better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse among the people of

the different States of the Union.'

Priv's and/or Immunities are not Rights and throughout the 18th and most of the 19th century were NEVER used interchageably.

P and/or I is and always has fundamentally been about equal application of law to all citizens

Heck, to further dispel the 20th century notion that P and/or I = Rights let alone "Civil Rights" we should turn to the Senator who proposed 14a and his own comments that 14A was NEVER intended to provide blacks with the right to vote,

This is OBVIOUSLY not something that I in any way, shape or form support but it is nonetheless evidence that the rubber don't meet the road in your assertion than Rights = P and/or I.

The 20th century "Interpretation" of 18th and 19th century language is a fatal stumbling block that has led to 100 plus years of justification, perversion and horrible case law that has trampled the rights of citizens.

Trying to use a perverted interpretation of a constitutional ammendment and 100 years of bad case law as justification for forcing a framework of regulation (CCW) on all states is insanity and will only lead to a one size fits none approach to RKBA......

68 GCA was a trainwreck for us as was the previous one.......Brady and every other federal regulation have always had a net effect of further restricting and violating our rights.....not further liberating them.....anyone that things Fed mandated CCW wont result in further trampling of RKBA is ignoring the last 125 years of federal on this and ALMOST every other issue of rights