Article: 58 Bipartisan Lawmakers Condemn Massachusetts ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban

This is what 30% of the Senate and Legislature in total? Not a bad start!

My only issue is that nothing is going to happen to defeat this until February if at all!

Healey’s changes actually constitute a “whole new law,” which is something they suggest she lacks the authority to do.
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She DOES lack the authority. AGs can't make laws!!
 
Horrible said:
This is what 30% of the Senate and Legislature in total? Not a bad start!

My only issue is that nothing is going to happen to defeat this until February if at all!

She DOES lack the authority. AGs can't make laws!!
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She didn't make the law, she interpreted it correctly, silly. [rolleyes][rolleyes]

I'm with you. I don't think that anything is going to happen on this in the near future. It's crazy that she can just arbitrarily do something like this to the most law-abiding people in this state.
 
huskyal02 said:
What's going in Feb that can might able to change the new "interpretation" of the laws?
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That is the earliest possible date the legislature can do something based on its calendar.

I fear that the excessive talk about "made us all felons" will lead to a solution that is simply codifying the exemption for pre 7/21 EBSs, rather than to void the entire regulation.

We need to keep the message on point, and emphasize over-reach and not consistent with the wording or intent of the law. If we emphasize "manufactured felons" we will see a solution that allows the Heliban to remain in force indefinitely.
 
How can you interpret something you know nothing about? Let me rephrase . . . How can you intelligently interpret something that is directed at a specific item, system, theory or idea that you know nothing about? It is pretty obvious that Honorable(?) AG Healey and/or what ever staffer or consultant she uses, have no idea what they are talking about.

First off, her comment about the gun manufacturers calling the rifles "MA Compliant". The laws were made with a set of specific criteria that make a rifle an "Assault Rifle" (as opposed to a defensive rifle). The gun makers change or assemble their rifles so that it does not meet the criteria of their definition of an "Assault Rifle". This is what is know as complying to the law, making the rifle "Compliant to MA Law" or "MA Compliant".

What I am afraid of is if we raise a big stink about it and use things like "no murders in Massachusetts use an AR-15 in 2014" or the 1911 defense (exchangeable action parts, bolt assemblies, spring loaded, removable magazine) in a hand gun since 1911, Is that an assault weapon??? She may come back with "Yes it is, those are banned, too" or "OK, 9mm Glocks were used the most in homicides in 2014, we'll ban those, too.

I believe her stupidity is only surpassed by her willingness to act upon it. Next you know, black powder muskets will be banned because they were used during the "Assault" on Bunker Hill (Breed's Hill).
 
The answer is the legislature needs to do away with the ban completely. But I won't hold my breath


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Sadly, my state senator is not among the 58 lawmakers mentioned above. Here is his 'update' to me:

Re: Attorney General’s assault weapons ban enforcement notice

Dear Friend,

My records indicate that you have contacted my office with concerns about Attorney General Maura Healey’s recent “Enforcement Notice” on the Massachusetts Assault Weapons Ban. I write with an update on this matter.
In the time since the Attorney General made the announcement, I have researched the statute under which the Attorney General acted, along with other relevant precedent and legal history. Based on that research, I fully support Attorney General Healey’s actions.
The goal of the 1998 Assault Weapons Ban was to restrict access to a certain type of firearm because of the particular lethality of these guns. The legislation also recognized that simple changes to peripheral features of such guns could skirt the law, which is why Chapter 140, Section 121 of the Massachusetts General Laws explicitly prohibits the sale of “copies or duplicates of the weapons, of any caliber”. Given that, I believe the actions of the Attorney General are in line with the original legislation’s intent and are within the office’s statutory authority as the state’s top law enforcement official.
I further understand that the Attorney General’s enforcement notice is a notification of her office’s intention to enforce the law prospectively, and that it will not be used retroactively to prosecute anyone who has bought or sold such weapons prior to July 20[SUP]th [/SUP]of this year.
I respect the rights of law-abiding sportsmen in my district. I respect the laws of the Commonwealth. Copycat assault weapons marketed as “state compliant” are designed specifically to circumvent the laws of the Commonwealth and are a threat to our public safety. I believe that the Attorney General’s action respects both the letter of the law and the Second Amendment rights of our hunters and sportsmen.
Again, thank you for reaching out to my office on this matter. Should you wish to review additional information regarding the enforcement notice, statements by the Attorney General are available here.
Sincerely,

BENJAMIN B. DOWNING, State Senator
Berkshire, Hampshire, Franklin and Hampden District



 
Every MA firearm owner needs to make their voice heard. When we ALL standup to this nonsense then changes will be made. If you know a MA firearm owner that is sitting on the sidelines challenge them to take a stand by writing a letter to an elected official or joining GOAL.
 
Hi Maciccon,
We can barely get 1 percent to show up to something this important to protect their rights.

Sorry to say I think we have already lost this one.

I will be at the state house to talk to the reps. with my son.

At least he will see how it all ends.

They are trying to take away all firearms. Make no mistake about it.

Ordered another rifle today just to exercise the rights I still have.

I just can't see how this can end well. By force will be a slaughter. They will call anyone involved a crazy gun nut trying to overthrow the government.

If we try to legislate change they will just keep on with the games they are playing.

When Hillery gets in office we might as well fly old glory upside down..

I hope for our children's sake I'm wrong...

Oh, the constitution, that old thing. We haven't followed that in forever!
 
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BigDaddy-Oh said:
How can you interpret something you know nothing about? Let me rephrase . . . How can you intelligently interpret something that is directed at a specific item, system, theory or idea that you know nothing about? It is pretty obvious that Honorable(?) AG Healey and/or what ever staffer or consultant she uses, have no idea what they are talking about.

First off, her comment about the gun manufacturers calling the rifles "MA Compliant". The laws were made with a set of specific criteria that make a rifle an "Assault Rifle" (as opposed to a defensive rifle). The gun makers change or assemble their rifles so that it does not meet the criteria of their definition of an "Assault Rifle". This is what is know as complying to the law, making the rifle "Compliant to MA Law" or "MA Compliant".

What I am afraid of is if we raise a big stink about it and use things like "no murders in Massachusetts use an AR-15 in 2014" or the 1911 defense (exchangeable action parts, bolt assemblies, spring loaded, removable magazine) in a hand gun since 1911, Is that an assault weapon??? She may come back with "Yes it is, those are banned, too" or "OK, 9mm Glocks were used the most in homicides in 2014, we'll ban those, too.

I believe her stupidity is only surpassed by her willingness to act upon it. Next you know, black powder muskets will be banned because they were used during the "Assault" on Bunker Hill (Breed's Hill).
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This is what she wants. For you and the rest of us to be afraid to speak up and fight against overwhelming odds in the most socialistic state in the country for fear of making things worse for ourselves. "Sit down and Shut up!!!" as they say. I have a simple response to that.

No.
 
dng said:
Someone started a petition on Change.org to overturn the AG decision. It already has over 27K signatures. The more it receives the more likely something will be done. Here is the link:

https://www.change.org/p/charles-baker-over-turn-the-ag-s-decision-of-the-assault-weapons-ban
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While I admire your optimism, I doubt petitions will do any good. I don't have a dog in this fight as I'm preparing to take a stand here in NH. MA is gone IMHO, which is the main reason I got out years ago. The laws in MA have been manipulated, abused and ignored. The political landscape is highly skewed to the left and no amount of petitioning will change the minds of the majority in MA who are mostly moonbats and snowflakes. Good luck to you folks!! I truly hope you patriots can turn things around down there. I know there are many of you who are frustrated and that frustration is turning to resolve. The odds are against you but I always find myself rooting for the underdog in any fight!
 
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I think some legislators are listening to us and have put forth two bills to strip the AG of her authority to issue regulations. Here is an article for one bill:

http://www.wickedlocal.com/news/20160729/mass-senate-gop-leader-tries-to-strip-power-from-ag-healey

Keep calling your local legislators and any petition you see. If enough of us speak up now during this election cycle, it will make a difference. We just have to be motivated enough to let them know that abusive draconian actions with cost them there jobs! So many Democrats have angered the various public union that they do not want anything else to worry about!
 
Rob Boudrie said:
That is the earliest possible date the legislature can do something based on its calendar.

I fear that the excessive talk about "made us all felons" will lead to a solution that is simply codifying the exemption for pre 7/21 EBSs, rather than to void the entire regulation.

We need to keep the message on point, and emphasize over-reach and not consistent with the wording or intent of the law. If we emphasize "manufactured felons" we will see a solution that allows the Heliban to remain in force indefinitely.
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Exactly Rob. If this enforcement action is allowed to stand, the implications go far beyond the issue of guns. In this enforcement environment, how can any responsible business make mid to long range plans to operate in the Commonwealth when the rules of competition (agreed upon by the give and take compromise of the legislative process) can be changed at any time by the whims of one individual?
 

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