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Applying for a MA dealer license while FFL is pending?

duza9999

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Good evening gents, I recently just applied for my importer license in Fall River, but the ATF said it likely would take 60 days on their end which I can live with. However given the uniqueness of MA’s requirements of having a separate state dealer license which takes a significant amount of time to process, is it possible to submit your state dealer application without having your FFL number yet?

Perhaps I’m just blind, but I didn’t see anywhere on the state form which asks for my FFL number (https://www.mass.gov/media/9611/download) any input from past or existing FFL’s would be greatly appreciated. Than, you-Mat
 

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FFL first. It's needed on the application. FFL not needed for ammo only. You can get all three state licenses (dealer, gunsmith, ammo) for $200 for three years. I forget the state license form # I used eons ago, but someone will chime in. Jack.
Gotcha, I shall twiddle my thumbs for an extra 2-3 months then lol 😂😅

Thank you for the quick and accurate response Jack.-Mathew
 

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Gotcha, I shall twiddle my thumbs for an extra 2-3 months then lol 😂😅

Thank you for the quick and accurate response Jack.-Mathew
Well, sometimes you can goose them along. One time I had difficulty getting an app't to get the state license renewed. Took a while, but I did get to sit down with the COP. I told him that ATF required me to be in compliance with state law or I would be a felon. That worked. Another time my state license was about to run out. The COP (very green town) just took a blank form, assigned a random number to it and signed it. He said that if anyone gave me shit, to send them to him. Of course, that was "back when". Jack.
 

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Got fingerprinted yesterday and background check has started for MA dealer license. Still waiting for interview with atf, however apparently my app is at the Boston office, thus I expect I should be getting my interview in the next two weeks.

Biggest surprise of the state licensing was when the officer said I would require a CCW for even simple possession regardless of the state dealer license. And also said the same thing when it comes to MG’s (except that I would need the stand alone green card) regardless of the fact that the state dealer license says for sale, rent, or lease of rifles, shotguns, pistols and machine guns o_O

All and all the officer was very nice and assisted me with a few errors I had. I find this all fascinating though, as I can clearly comprehend/understand RI GL even as disorganized 11-47-8 is, but MA GL with regards to firearms literally looks like a rat’s nest, and seems to be very contradictory.
 
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