38ExtraSpecial
NES Member
Official sign up and info thread
https://www.northeastshooters.com/v...7-Cast-Bullet-Seminar-Official-Sign-Up-Thread
Alright guys and gals. I guess it's getting to that time of year and the planning needs to start!
Here is a link to what we did last year.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/316308-Official-NES-Cast-Bullets-Seminar
I think we're going to stick with the same format, but it will be at a new location. Most likely Fairhaven.
I will draw up a new outline to add to this opening post pertaining to costs and materials asap.
Please select which date works best for you.
Can anyone from the last seminars or anyone who currently is casting bullets chime in and let everyone else know how it has changed your life? Don't mention the addiction to lead and the late night creeping around parking lots looking for a wheel weight or two. Just the good stuff.
Anyone new to casting or skeptical about if it's for you or if it works or if you can shoot cast from your glock or your fancy comped gun, please ask away.
Cast bullets and their counterparts (hi-tek, powder coated, gas checked and paper patched) are capable of almost anything jacketed bullets are at a much lower cost.
Lead is a hazard to your health if you ingest it or breathe in lead oxides. That doesn't happen in a proper casting set up. Observe proper hygiene and you won't have an issue. No smoking, eating, drinking etc while handing lead and you won't have health concerns. Melting lead does not create lead fumes. You have to be in excess of 1000 degrees to produces fumes. We cast bullets around 650-750 degrees.
I have my lead tested every year and have never had an elevated level.
Now for the hook. I can reload 1000 rounds of common pistol ammo for $<50
My lead is alway free or such a low price I can't bother to calculate it.
If I had to pay for lead I would order online and get it for $1 per pound shipped to my door in clean ingots.
Roughly $18 worth of lead would make 1000 each 124 grain 9mm bullets
$32 for primers
1.6 cents for powder
6.6 cents per round for 9mm. $66 per 1000
That doesn't change much when you move up to 45 ACP or 10MM or 44 mag. Might be another penny or two in powder but the primer is the same and the lead is negligible.
So what does that mean? You can shoot more for your money. Who can afford to get good at shooting when it cost $100 a range trip? Casters can.
What about time? This must take forever to make bullets? That has to be the trade off?
I usually run 2 bullets moulds at a time. If I run a lee 6 cavity bullet mould and get a decent cadence I can drop bullets at least 4 times a minute. Thats 24 rounds per minute conservatively.
Match a bullet that drops to size with a decent tumble lube or a coating and you're shooting in no time.
Glock guys? No Problem. Once you learn that all you need to do is size the bullet right for the rifling you can shoot all the lead you want. Commercial ammo and bullets are usually too hard and too small. They cause leading which will blow up any gun if you don't pay attention. Polygonal rifling and other similar rifling had been around for a lot longer than a glock. That rifling started long before jacketed ammo and commercial bullets. No issues with the millions of rounds fired in the Metford rifling of Martini actions to date.
Rifle guys?
Harder alloy, gas check, coatings or the mother of all.... the paper patch.
Jacketed was originally called Metal Patched.
I shot 50 something of these out of my Sharps last night. Bore is clean, no smoky mess. Accuracy was better than normal cast. Velocity isn't an issue.
Not to mention that you can size bullets, lead or paper patch to make your old milsurp with that oversized bore shoot like a dream again.
Where do I get supplies? What will it cost to get started?
We will cover all of that in the seminar and at the end of the day we get to take a trip to one of our local vendors Shooting Supply in Westport MA.
I'm going to ask Mark to put together a list of a basic budget casting set up so I can post a budget beginners price list here and show how fast it pays for itself.
We always have door prizes too. Some people walked away last year with a full casting set up but everyone walked away with the knowledge to make their own bullets.
So lets hear some questions and some feedback from past participants.
As always thank you to DUKEINFLORIDA, BOBJ, EDDIE COYLE and all of the other presenters at the original seminars. Without them I wouldn't be passing on this knowledge.
https://www.northeastshooters.com/v...7-Cast-Bullet-Seminar-Official-Sign-Up-Thread
Alright guys and gals. I guess it's getting to that time of year and the planning needs to start!
Here is a link to what we did last year.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/316308-Official-NES-Cast-Bullets-Seminar
I think we're going to stick with the same format, but it will be at a new location. Most likely Fairhaven.
I will draw up a new outline to add to this opening post pertaining to costs and materials asap.
Please select which date works best for you.
Can anyone from the last seminars or anyone who currently is casting bullets chime in and let everyone else know how it has changed your life? Don't mention the addiction to lead and the late night creeping around parking lots looking for a wheel weight or two. Just the good stuff.
Anyone new to casting or skeptical about if it's for you or if it works or if you can shoot cast from your glock or your fancy comped gun, please ask away.
Cast bullets and their counterparts (hi-tek, powder coated, gas checked and paper patched) are capable of almost anything jacketed bullets are at a much lower cost.
Lead is a hazard to your health if you ingest it or breathe in lead oxides. That doesn't happen in a proper casting set up. Observe proper hygiene and you won't have an issue. No smoking, eating, drinking etc while handing lead and you won't have health concerns. Melting lead does not create lead fumes. You have to be in excess of 1000 degrees to produces fumes. We cast bullets around 650-750 degrees.
I have my lead tested every year and have never had an elevated level.
Now for the hook. I can reload 1000 rounds of common pistol ammo for $<50
My lead is alway free or such a low price I can't bother to calculate it.
If I had to pay for lead I would order online and get it for $1 per pound shipped to my door in clean ingots.
Roughly $18 worth of lead would make 1000 each 124 grain 9mm bullets
$32 for primers
1.6 cents for powder
6.6 cents per round for 9mm. $66 per 1000
That doesn't change much when you move up to 45 ACP or 10MM or 44 mag. Might be another penny or two in powder but the primer is the same and the lead is negligible.
So what does that mean? You can shoot more for your money. Who can afford to get good at shooting when it cost $100 a range trip? Casters can.
What about time? This must take forever to make bullets? That has to be the trade off?
I usually run 2 bullets moulds at a time. If I run a lee 6 cavity bullet mould and get a decent cadence I can drop bullets at least 4 times a minute. Thats 24 rounds per minute conservatively.
Match a bullet that drops to size with a decent tumble lube or a coating and you're shooting in no time.
Glock guys? No Problem. Once you learn that all you need to do is size the bullet right for the rifling you can shoot all the lead you want. Commercial ammo and bullets are usually too hard and too small. They cause leading which will blow up any gun if you don't pay attention. Polygonal rifling and other similar rifling had been around for a lot longer than a glock. That rifling started long before jacketed ammo and commercial bullets. No issues with the millions of rounds fired in the Metford rifling of Martini actions to date.
Rifle guys?
Harder alloy, gas check, coatings or the mother of all.... the paper patch.
Jacketed was originally called Metal Patched.
I shot 50 something of these out of my Sharps last night. Bore is clean, no smoky mess. Accuracy was better than normal cast. Velocity isn't an issue.
Not to mention that you can size bullets, lead or paper patch to make your old milsurp with that oversized bore shoot like a dream again.
Where do I get supplies? What will it cost to get started?
We will cover all of that in the seminar and at the end of the day we get to take a trip to one of our local vendors Shooting Supply in Westport MA.
I'm going to ask Mark to put together a list of a basic budget casting set up so I can post a budget beginners price list here and show how fast it pays for itself.
We always have door prizes too. Some people walked away last year with a full casting set up but everyone walked away with the knowledge to make their own bullets.
So lets hear some questions and some feedback from past participants.
As always thank you to DUKEINFLORIDA, BOBJ, EDDIE COYLE and all of the other presenters at the original seminars. Without them I wouldn't be passing on this knowledge.
Last edited:
![[smile]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/001.gif "Smile [smile]")
