Massachusetts Bill HD.4420 "An act to modernize gun Laws"

[stinx]

Get ready cause here it comes.
https://malegislature.gov/Bills/193...0M-HL66laTXHeHiyrzN0kMxgNmjSKp2LFQlIxc9oEummw

If this passes, which it probably will the second amendment in Ma will be destroyed

 

[Goliathan]

Via GOAL:

“The Lawful Citizens Imprisonment Act”

On June 26, 2023 the Massachusetts Legislature, through Chairman Day, has released their new proposed gun legislation. This bill was supposedly the results of the so-called listening tour. Apparently, no one was listening, because everyone who attended said lawful gun were not the problem. This proposal does not represent that premise at all! In just a cursory review of the proposal it is obvious that it represents a full-scale attack on the Second Amendment in the Commonwealth.

The gun laws are already so convoluted and complex that it is extremely difficult for the average citizen to comply with them. The newly proposed language will add a finality to that as it will now be virtually impossible. There will be no way to exercise our 2A civil rights in Massachusetts without risking arrest and prosecution.
The proposed legislation is 140 pages long. The GOAL staff will get to work deciphering it, but it will take some time.

https://malegislature.gov/Bills/193/HD4420

 

[bauer]

They can (and likely will, irrespective of feedback) pass whatever they want. I’m at the point of non-compliance/civil disobedience

 

[Dench]

Wow they actually banned WASR-10's by name

 

[Coda]

So the Bruen decision means nothing???

That supreme court ruling seems to be making things worse rather than better.

 

[mcb]

Will this establish another magic "will not prosecute if in possession before" date ... Ban 3.0?

 

[APFSDS]

New prohibited place: anywhere that doesn't specifically post a "guns allowed" sign:

any private property, including but not limited to residential, commercial, industrial,
2620 agricultural, institutional or undeveloped property, unless the owner has provided express
2621 consent or has posted a sign indicating that it is permissible to carry on the premises a firearm
2622 with a valid and lawfully issued firearm license or permit under Chapter 140;

 

[Drix]

New prohibited place: anywhere that doesn't specifically post a "guns allowed" sign:

any private property, including but not limited to residential, commercial, industrial,
2620 agricultural, institutional or undeveloped property, unless the owner has provided express
2621 consent or has posted a sign indicating that it is permissible to carry on the premises a firearm
2622 with a valid and lawfully issued firearm license or permit under Chapter 140;

Doesn't DC v Heller talk about that?

 

[Mass-diver]

Anyone care to summarize it? At a glance it’s a semiauto ban?

Maybe one day the Supreme Court will rule on this stuff, oh wait that already happened. I think the key now is funding lawsuits, right?

 

[Joeldiaz]

Time to start donating to @Comm2A.

 

[Dench]

New prohibited place: anywhere that doesn't specifically post a "guns allowed" sign:

any private property, including but not limited to residential, commercial, industrial,
2620 agricultural, institutional or undeveloped property, unless the owner has provided express
2621 consent or has posted a sign indicating that it is permissible to carry on the premises a firearm
2622 with a valid and lawfully issued firearm license or permit under Chapter 140;

I love this proposal

 

[GunCat]

"(ix) Feather Industries AT-9;"

Does anyone even still have these?

 

[ddeck]

Lots of stuff in there....but to me the big one is:

493 Section 122. Registration of firearms; reporting; loss or theft; punishment
494 (a) All firearms and feeding devices possessed in the commonwealth must be registered
495 in accordance with this section.

 

[Goliathan]

It's an everything ban. Day walked the smorgasboard of all the dogsh!t that NY, Jersey, California, etc. have done and compiled it into one heaping pile of manure.

 

[Dench]

"(ix) Feather Industries AT-9;"

Does anyone even still have these?

"(xv) SIG AMT, SIG PE-57, Sig Sauer SG 550, Sig Sauer SG 551 and SIG MCX; "

So...the MPX and Sig556 are good to go? Cool.

those are probably covered under the other catch all evil feature counting they do.

 

[GunCat]

those are probably covered under the other catch all evil feature counting they do.

Yeah, realized that right after I posted it. Whoops, lol

 

[paul73]

So the Bruen decision means nothing???

bruen means nothing for the state level lawmakers.

 

[StevieP]

Vote with your feet.

Sorry, but that's all I've got to offer

 

[TJ4]

Via GOAL:

“The Lawful Citizens Imprisonment Act”

On June 26, 2023 the Massachusetts Legislature, through Chairman Day, has released their new proposed gun legislation. This bill was supposedly the results of the so-called listening tour. Apparently, no one was listening, because everyone who attended said lawful gun were not the problem. This proposal does not represent that premise at all! In just a cursory review of the proposal it is obvious that it represents a full-scale attack on the Second Amendment in the Commonwealth.

The gun laws are already so convoluted and complex that it is extremely difficult for the average citizen to comply with them. The newly proposed language will add a finality to that as it will now be virtually impossible. There will be no way to exercise our 2A civil rights in Massachusetts without risking arrest and prosecution.
The proposed legislation is 140 pages long. The GOAL staff will get to work deciphering it, but it will take some time.

https://malegislature.gov/Bills/193/HD4420

gee, you mean the leftist lied about his intentions on firearms? I’m shocked. Geezus, he had this sh*t drafted before that “listening tour” started.

 

[kro77]

Feels like a NJ Style FU Scotus vengeance law.

 

[Bodhisattva]

Well then…

 

[allen-1]

Vote with your feet.

Sorry, but that's all I've got to offer

Nice of you to post that from your sanctuary in NC having left MA

Fully agreeing with you from my sanctuary in GA - having left CT.

 

[Dench]

Nice of you to post that from your sanctuary in NC having left MA

Fully agreeing with you from my sanctuary in GA - having left CT.

While I probably regret moving to FL, I certainly don't regret leaving MA. So, I'm still winning. I really, really do not miss MA.

 

[APFSDS]

Lots of stuff in there....but to me the big one is:

493 Section 122. Registration of firearms; reporting; loss or theft; punishment
494 (a) All firearms and feeding devices possessed in the commonwealth must be registered
495 in accordance with this section.

all firearms AND FEEDING DEVICES

 

[APFSDS]

Vote with your feet.

Sorry, but that's all I've got to offer

We're leaving next summer. Can't come soon enough.

 

[Mark from MA]

Why is anyone surprised after the gun listening tour....that they are trying to pass gun control? The tour should have been an indicator to you all that something is coming down heavy.

They had this shit drafted right after Bruen, but they just wanted to say they "listened" to the people and gave them an opportunity.....

Its all semantics and bullshit. To think they weren't going to shove something up our ass right after....you gotta be pretty fxcking nieve.

 

[Mark from MA]

Vote with your feet.

Sorry, but that's all I've got to offer

That's really all I'm willing to do anymore.

 

[EJFudd]

It's an everything ban. Day walked the smorgasboard of all the dogsh!t that NY, Jersey, California, etc. have done and compiled it into one heaping pile of manure.

Yep. Looks like we are ALL criminals now. Better get used to it everyone. This massive pile of insanity looks like it is impossible to comply with and still own a firearm in MA.

 

[Goliathan]

Why is anyone surprised after the gun listening tour....that they are trying to pass gun control? The tour should have been an indicator to you all that something is coming down heavy.

They had this shit drafted right after Bruen, but they just wanted to say they "listened" to the people and gave them an opportunity.....

Its all semantics and bullshit. To think they weren't going to shove something up our ass right after....you gotta be pretty fxcking nieve.

I don't know a single person who is surprised by this. The fact that it was expected doesn't mean anger over it should be lessened in any degree.

 

[Chevy 2 65]

GOAL is powerless against this type of shit.