AK not feeding

[tuna]

I’ve got a WASR10/63 AKM that doesn’t want to feed. Multiple mags and mag types same issue. Steel case, brass case, FMJ and soft point.
Bolt rides right over the round.

There’s some wobble in the mags all around. And another forum suggested pulling back on the mag as you fire to raise the back of the mag.
Bingo. Feeds now.
So I found the issue. What’s the fix?

Replace the mag catch? Bend it with pliers? Where do I need to hit with hammer?

Thanks

 

[Marty McFly]

Got any pictures?

 

[greencobra]

And another forum suggested pulling back on the mag as you fire

how come i never see those commie bastards do that?

Got any pictures?

of what einstein? the gun not feeding?

 

[Grendizer138]

how come i never see those commie bastards do that?


of what einstein? the gun not feeding?

Mag catch, tabs replacing dimples, bullet guide, etc.

Einstein indeed.

 

[DispositionMatrix]

I recommend posting on r/ak47/, AK Files, or the AK Forum where there is a good bit of AK-specific expertise.

 

[Grendizer138]

I recommend posting on r/ak47/, AK Files, or the AK Forum where there is a good bit of AK-specific expertise.

There is plenty of expertise here.

 

[tuna]

Got any pictures?

of what einstein? the gun not feeding?

Mag catch, tabs replacing dimples, bullet guide, etc.

Einstein indeed.

I thought Green Cobra’s comment was funny. Thanks for clarifying it Grendizer.
Pics below. Excuse the crappy quality, I’m still dealing with a pinched nerve and can’t stand or sit long so am doing everything lying down. Makes it awkward. At least I’m healing and playing with guns.


Chamber with top end off.

Better view of chamber


Looking at bottom toward front.
Mag catch

Mag catch 2

Mag in rifle

Mag in rifle -can see catch against it.

Bolt about to ride over rounds

Same as above but ones better.

Thanks

 

[tuna]

There is plenty of expertise here.

I found a guy who just happened to have a video of taking apart a Honda Odyssey automatic door here to fix an issue I was having. Pretty sure NES knows what I need. Maybe Boris will send a shovel.

 

[Grendizer138]

Possible dumb question, but does it react any differently depending on which side of the mag is about to be chambered? That’s an odd wear pattern on the release.

 

[tuna]

Not dumb at all. No it doesn’t.

But, trying it from bed with rifle pointed at ceiling it fed fine. Mag must have moved back and up a hair. When I tried it level, both sides jammed.

So I guess it’s ok for antiaircraft and skeet until figured out. Lol

 

[Grendizer138]

When you say you’ve tried multiple mags, were they all polymer waffles, or did you try steel mags?

 

[tuna]

Polymer no name, PMAG, and Croatian steel with the hold open follower.

 

[Picton]

Subscribed.

I wish I could help, but the grim reality is that while firing about eight different AKs, hundreds of rounds apiece, with the same crapulent commie steel mags? I've never once had a misfire/malfunction out of an AK.

 

[TG Pioneer]

Subscribed.

I wish I could help, but the grim reality is that while firing about eight different AKs, hundreds of rounds apiece, with the same crapulent commie steel mags? I've never once had a misfire out of an AK.

I have one of the first Norinco underfolders and a Wasr-10. The Chinese mags are a little difficult to load into the Romanian rifle but, like you, never a misfire.

 

[Grendizer138]

Polymer no name, PMAG, and Croatian steel with the hold open follower.

All junk, but definitely should not produce the same results.

 

[puška m70]

how come i never see those commie bastards do that?


of what einstein? the gun not feeding?

Pulling the mag back is a bandaid and not something that should have to be done.

And yes, the support bars welded inside (wasrs don't have dimpled magwells), bullet guide etc all could have a defect resulting in the malfunctioning gun.

All junk, but definitely should not produce the same results.

Agreed 100%. But WASR magwells can be a bit crude and varying size more than a normal AK since they are originally single stack mags milled out after import by century. I think its at least worth trying some steel combloc made mags to see if they work. Polymer mags have a tendency to swell and be very tight in magwells of aks.

Croatian mags are debatably the worst steel AK mags. I shot a friend's Croatian mag and it sent a round BACKWARDS into the trigger area of the receiver. I'd personally stick with combloc steel and bakeleite mags and Bulgarian current production stuff exclusively.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

Perhaps an AK gunsmith could help? I was going to say Sergey at RustBlue but noticed you’re in NH. Nonetheless, it could be an easy fix and save you the headache of trial and error despite successfully identifying the issue. I have a MAK90 and have never had any issues but I did buy the wrong stock once and piss away money after having to resell it in the classified section. Doh!

 

[Boghog1]

I thought Green Cobra’s comment was funny. Thanks for clarifying it Grendizer.
Pics below. Excuse the crappy quality, I’m still dealing with a pinched nerve and can’t stand or sit long so am doing everything lying down. Makes it awkward. At least I’m healing and playing with guns.

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Chamber with top end off.
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Better view of chamber

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Looking at bottom toward front. View attachment 802490
Mag catch
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Mag catch 2
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Mag in rifle
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Mag in rifle -can see catch against it.
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Bolt about to ride over rounds
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Same as above but ones better.

Thanks

Are those projectiles FUBAR?

 

[Grendizer138]

Was this rifle operating properly at one point (while you owned it)?

 

[puška m70]

I don't mean to insult your intelligence but a lot of guys used to ARs and other guns do not insert the mag right into the AK. There is a lug on the front of a mag that needs to be "hooked in" to the corresponding notch in the mag well then levered into the gun from that.

 

[puška m70]

Are those projectiles FUBAR?

Yeah they prob wont feed right again, I'd junk em.

Was this rifle operating properly at one point (while you owned it)?

Due to the wear on the gun, I'd assume it has had plenty of mags that fed thru it fine. I wonder if this is a new gun to OP.

 

[greencobra]

@Marty McFly...just bustin' them buddy, sorry if i came off a little pissy. i'm a dick, i admit it. my apologies.

 

[tuna]

Yeah, the rounds are screwed. Thanks for pointing it out if I didn’t notice myself.

The gun is new to me. And has always had this issue. Couple months. The plastic works better, and I thought it was the Croats that were the issue. Just got the PMAG and it’s the same.

I’m pretty sure I know how to load an AK, but I may be wrong. Does it look like the mag isn’t in right? That would be embarrassing, but I’m a Fudd at heart after all.

 

[Uzi2]

Arsenal Magazine Catch Assembly

Arsenal AK-MAGCA Magazine Catch Assembly for AKM includes AK-010EG, AK-011, and AK-012EG

www.k-var.com

 

[tuna]

Thanks Uzi2, I’ll give it a try.




Really thought I was supposed to hit something with a hammer…..

 

[Marty McFly]

@Marty McFly...just bustin' them buddy, sorry if i came off a little pissy. i'm a dick, i admit it. my apologies.

Way to get all gay about it. That's our thing. I know you only get pissy when someone says something bad about tapioca.
Bust em baby

 

[Mesatchornug]

I’ve got a WASR10/63 AKM that doesn’t want to feed.

Did you try a ham sandwich? @Broc says it'll work...

 

[Broc]

Did you try a ham sandwich? @Broc says it'll work...

 

[greencobra]

I know you only get pissy when someone says something bad about tapioca.

wait...i do love the people from the isle of tapioca.

 

[Road_Clam]

Thanks Uzi2, I’ll give it a try.




Really thought I was supposed to hit something with a hammer…..

I have an Opap. My Romy mags are a snug fit , no wobble. She's a flawless cycler. Even feeding from a drum shes a perfect shooter. Id be happy to meet up with you at my gun club and we can try swapping mags and bolt assemblies to see if we can isolate weather you have a trunnion / receiver issue or mag related.